Reasoned debate takes a back seat to personal attacks and threats

I did a post (here) about the tactic of using children as a wedge in the immigration debate. I said that, just because illegal aliens have children once they're here — making those children American citizens — that is not a reason to grant those parents amnesty, even if it does break families apart. In any event, the families can re-unite in Mexico. I think it's worthwhile highlighting one of the comments I received regarding that post:

How touching racist bigots have feelings?

I didnt think you had it in you.

But 'Dura lex sed rex' the law is hard but it is the law-

When these kids are 18 they and millions of others like them will still be able to bring thier parents over.

They are American by birth- you rasicts will never be able to take that away from them. basic legal concept – once granted cannot be taken away.

And in the end- your grandchildren will all hear a US President speak spanish to a latino majority in congress!!!! HAHAHAHA

You want to know why? because you whites keep abortion legal and are commiting genocide versus your race= while 20% are mostly fags – who wont have children- so in the end you'll be a minority in America in couple of decades by mere birthrate!

ARIBA LA RAZA!!! Chocolate!!!!

LA and San Diego are already 40% hispanic!

In the identification part of the comment, the author provides what appears to be a dead website URL to a La Raza paper: http://www.laraza.org

I found the whole comment impressive, because it runs the gamut of debating points from the other side of the aisle: personal insults, threats, boasts, and, rather incongruously, vile homophobic slurs.

What I wonder is whether this is a rant to make the author feel better, or if he thinks this will actually change my mind on the subject. As I've shown, I'm perfectly willing to rethink my position if someone makes a strong, logical argument. This kind of attack, however, only affirms my sense that my thinking is probably right. If it weren't, my "opponent" would actually have a counterargument, not just an ad hominem attack.

UPDATE:  I'm hitting the big time, since I got another prime example of reasoned thinking from the Left.  I'm quoting it below, although I've done a little "expletive deleted" work on it, not liking obscenties in my posts.  The comment had all words in their full glory:

F**k America and hope one day americans will kill each other as what happenenig all over the world.

we will teach them the proper lesson one day, there is no empire last forever.

It's definitely a viewpoint, but scarcely a convincing one, is it? 

7 Responses

  1. A racist called you racist. Isn’t it ironic that they never see themselves in the charges that they level.

  2. As I said back on that thread in response, I’m not white and I wish racists would stop assuming everyone on one side is white. Judging by character and not skin color, seemed to have not been on the lesson plan for these fake liberals.

    Fake as all can be, it seems.

    This is why revolutions fail, as neo neo con wrote about, so often. When you have people like mike running the shop, can could it succede? If Washington was a mike, what would have happened?

  3. You forgot spelling errors. It should say “ARRIBA LA RAZA”.

    Apparently the Master Raza is above such things as phonetic spelling.

  4. t seems proper on June 6, D-Day, to reflect on the world that battle brought us. It did not bring us the world that your obscene minded writers here want.

    Normandy, Omaha, Sword: All those brave, never(except by the undeserving)to-be- forgotten sacrifices!

    Those thousands of lives.. Those who formed a defiant NO to the world your writers glorify.

    And again, race has become today’s new rally cry. The 30’s come back full circle. The ugliness in your mails reflects that returned evil.

    Whether your writers– or the New York Times– or Iran’s President– May they always attack America. Courage such as that of D- Day serve to make us worthy of their
    hate.

  5. I wouldn’t worry if La Raza and crew take over; they will screw it up just like they did in Mexico, and then be kicked to the curb.
    My goodness, something like 40-50% of their GNP comes from the US, that should tell you something.

  6. It tells me like the entire world is benefiting from American money, sacrifice, blood, toil, tears, and umbrella military protection while doing their darnest to kill the goose laying the golden eggs.

  7. The latinos got to be crazy. Such pround culture and long history of presence in the new world. How can you call the whites racist, when within latino cultures blacks and dark completion hispanics are looked down upon. As an black man born and raised in these United States, it seems so obvious to me that tha hispanic people have had a history that is not so pure as they would want others to believe. The hispanics need to educate themselve before offering themselve to the world as a valuable asset. Your history has been that of destruction. Spanish was not the language of this part of the world. Hispanics are just as much invaders as any other racial group. Heck they are the people that started racism in this part of the world. Even in medieval Europe when African people came into the european nations of the time, they were accepted for their person. It was when the other Europeans followed the destruction bought on by the Spanish, they took on the habits that the Spanish had created of destroying people.
    Why would the hispanic people wish to sell themselve to someone that they might label as racist? That makes no sence to me.Why would they choose to want the same benefits of the other American people, when it was they that had the opportunity to create the new world to what it is now. You can not belame anyone but yourself for your lacks. Even the slaves of the Americas opened schools upon their release to freedom. There is no reason for the orginals(?) to be demanding anything from anyone. The hispanics are the ones that had the opportunity to become modern, long before everyone else, including the white. Hey Hispanics get your act together. You can not belame anyone but yourselves for your situation.

    Tumelo Mathe-the American!

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