Separating facts from editorializing

Jennifer Loven is at it again. She’s the political writer for AP who always comes out with anti-Bush stories, and who always, somehow, manages to forget to disclose that her husband is a former Clinton employee and was working for John Kerry last I heard. I took her latest “news” story and, just for the fun of it, fisked the first part of it. I noted the editorializing, the unattributed “facts,” and the rhetorical devices, and, as you’ll see, once I got rid of the Lovenizing, there was nothing left. This news report is, in fact, nothing more than an opinion hit piece.

I quickly got bored with this self-imposed task, and figured you’d gotten the hang of it, so you can go off and fisk the rest here. Basically, the gist is that Loven, while falsely castigating Bush for making false claims to bolster his rhetoric, repeatedly engages in precisely that tactic:

“Some look at the challenges in Iraq and conclude that the war is lost and not worth another dime or another day,” President Bush said recently.

Another time he said, “Some say that if you’re Muslim you can’t be free.”

“There are some really decent people,” the president said earlier this year, “who believe that the federal government ought to be the decider of health care … for all people.”

Of course, hardly anyone in mainstream political debate has made such assertions.

[Does anyone notice that Loven is here doing exactly the same thing she’s accusing Bush of doing? That is, using some vague unattributed sources to prove or disprove a conclusion? Aside from that, while Loven has no attribution for her claim that no one is saying that, I can certainly provide mainstream source material for every one of the President’s rhetorical statements.

The first statement can be attributed to two darlings of the press, John Murtha and Cindy Sheehan. Without context, I’m not sure what Bush’s second statement means. Was he pointing to those on the right who have repeatedly identified the submission element in Islam (as have Muslims themselves), or to those on the Left (including Muslims themselves) who say that Islam cannot coexist with freedom. Either statement, of course, is true. As for the third statement, many in the Democratic party have repeatedly demanded “universal healthcare,” a euphemism for a government run program — and when government pays, government gets to control.]

When the president starts a sentence with “some say” or offers up what “some in Washington” believe, as he is doing more often these days, a rhetorical retort almost assuredly follows.

[As I’ve demonstrated above, Loven’s premise is, quite simply, false.]

The device usually is code for Democrats or other White House opponents. In describing what they advocate, Bush often omits an important nuance or substitutes an extreme stance that bears little resemblance to their actual position.

[Again, I’ve demonstrated that this is false. This is purely Loven’s partisan stance. There is simply no other way to dress up her claim — made without any evidence whatsoever — that Bush is lying about his opponent’s positions.]

He typically then says he “strongly disagrees” — conveniently knocking down a straw man of his own making.

[Ditto. Ironically ditto, too, because Loven set up a classic straw man here, by falsely claiming that Bush uses a rhetorical tactic, and then attacking him for doing so.]

Bush routinely is criticized for dressing up events with a too-rosy glow. But experts in political speech say the straw man device, in which the president makes himself appear entirely reasonable by contrast to supposed “critics,” is just as problematic.

Because the “some” often go unnamed, Bush can argue that his statements are true in an era of blogs and talk radio. Even so, “‘some’ suggests a number much larger than is actually out there,” said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania.

A specialist in presidential rhetoric, Wayne Fields of Washington University in St. Louis, views it as “a bizarre kind of double talk” that abuses the rules of legitimate discussion.

“It’s such a phenomenal hole in the national debate that you can have arguments with nonexistent people,” Fields said. “All politicians try to get away with this to a certain extent. What’s striking here is how much this administration rests on a foundation of this kind of stuff.”

[As Fields rightly points out “all politicans try to get away with this to a certain extent.” Because this is an ancient, much-used rhetorical device — and given that I’ve just shown that, in fact, some pretty well-known people are saying more or less what Bush says they’re saying — it’s unclear why Bush is the target of this article — unless, of course, someone is out to get him? A true news story about strawmen in rhetoric would have wandered across the political spectrum, rather than gathering the gang to attack the President. By now, all readers should be having flashbacks to their childhood when they got scolded for something and could only sputter helplessly, “But Mom, they did it too.”]

Bush has caricatured the other side for years, trying to tilt legislative debates in his favor or score election-season points with voters. [Uh, did Loven just lift that from a Democratic Party press release? That’s not reporting, that’s pure, partisan opinion.]

Not long after taking office in 2001, Bush pushed for a new education testing law and began portraying skeptics as opposed to holding schools accountable.

The chief opposition, however, had nothing to do with the merits of measuring performance, but rather the cost and intrusiveness of the proposal.

[Fascinating, considering that, on the Left, there’s always money for more and more bizarre sex education classes, for PC indoctrination, for maintaining teachers who don’t teach (Bennish springs to mind here), and generally for turning classrooms into thought control labs. I’ll also point to the fact that, as she claims Bush did, Loven provides absolutely no authority for her contention that the “good guys” didn’t make the arguments Bush claimed they did but, in fact, made the arguments she now asserts on their behalf.]

Campaigning for Republican candidates in the 2002 midterm elections, the president sought to use the congressional debate over a new Homeland Security Department against Democrats.

He told at least two audiences that some senators opposing him were “not interested in the security of the American people.” In reality, Democrats balked not at creating the department, which Bush himself first opposed, but at letting agency workers go without the usual civil service protections.

[Again, I’d like some attribution here. Did all Democrats balk as she contends? Impossible to tell, because Loven again does what she accuses Bush of doing — conclusions without facts. And is there anything wrong with claiming, in a political context, that if your opponents repeatedly come up with reasons to oppose something you think is vitally necessary for national safety, they’re not as interested in safety as you are? That’s not a strawman. That’s pure argument, and a damn good one too.]

Running for re-election against Sen. John Kerry in 2004, Bush frequently used some version of this line to paint his Democratic opponent as weaker in the fight against terrorism: “My opponent and others believe this matter is a matter of intelligence and law enforcement.”

[Considering the famous New York Times interview in which St. Kerry said just that, Loven’s contrary assertion ought to be an embarrassment to both her and AP. Maybe Loven’s boyfriend forgot to tell her about this one.]

Talking to Technorati: , , ,

21 Responses

  1. BW – Why waste your time. None of your readers would think of reading Loven’s claptrap.

  2. I no longer take news magazines, and I don’t read newspapers (except the weekly St. Helena Star, that keeps me in touch with the “news” of the incredibly self-absorbed small town near which I used to live). I don’t watch TV at all, and the radio is the only place I get the “MSM” news. That is often too much, and I switch over to country music until the talk show returns! With the Internet, why subject yourself to this drivel!?

  3. I agree with Earl. I get more of my news from the internet from various sources than from the TV news and I don’t read news magazines or the paper. They have become a complete waste of time.

  4. Most of us are savvy, but those of us new to conservatism and new to the internet still need to be shown how sneaky the MSM is. That’s why I bother!

  5. I grew up in a newspaper family. In a very conservative town For years, the paper my dad owned had the world “Republican” in the title.

    I have worked in the media in one capacity or another since I was a tot.

    For every example of leftist bias I could give you an example of bias in favor of government and in favor of the “official story,” regardless how untrue

    What ultimately matters is not who is liberal or who is conservative- but whose opinion is most valid and who is telling the truth.

    Who was telling the truth before the war in Iraq? People on both the left and the right had it right. Others did not. Those with integrity have admitted as much. Other poor souls, who look like cultists at this point, keep drinking the Kool-Aid.

  6. Most of us are savvy, but those of us new to conservatism and new to the internet still need to be shown how sneaky the MSM is. That’s why I bother!

    I appreciate your efforts here. But I tend to believe that I personally, and perhaps others, might prefer that you spent your time giving your insights in other fields. To which you do quite magnificently. I wouldn’t want to lose reading 3 of your posts if time spent on this one kept you too busy, or even 2 for 1, for example.

    There are many media watchdogs on the web, and one of the better and more useful ones is Mudville. There’s a weird story there, but nvm

    The military bloggers have caught onto the media’s trick. Unlike, perhaps, neo neo-conservatives.

    Personally, Jennifer’s method of accusing the enemy what she herself use in order to both defend herself and to make an attack upon the enemy, is propaganda’s lowest low trick. Not in immoral terms, but in terms of efficiency, obfuscation, and professionalism. It just is too obvious.

    Chomsky is really the master, or one of the masters to be specific, in my view. My analysis of Chommie is here, Link

    Mudville has some good criticism of the media.

    There’s Operation Swarmer. Link

    People who quote Bush. Link

  7. To quote your story, Bookworm: ‘Wayne Fields of Washington University in St. Louis, views it as “a bizarre kind of double talk” that abuses the rules of legitimate discussion.

    “It’s such a phenomenal hole in the national debate that you can have arguments with nonexistent people,” Fields said. “All politicians try to get away with this to a certain extent. What’s striking here is how much this administration rests on a foundation of this kind of stuff.”‘

    Hey, Wayne, it’s the only game in town for the MSM. Politicians are small fry.
    The media routinely creates its rebuttals to the White House with ‘double talk.’Terms such as ‘opponents’ or ‘CRITICS’ appear every day as fake talking points. Better fodder are leaks or un named ‘sources.’ A similar tactic is to introduce some (un) authority to contradict the President on an issue. We know who the President is; who’s the authority (if there is such a thing on the topic at hand) and WHY should we accept his view as having equal weight? A typical tactic. (Continuing this: the President answers to the voters/public; to whom do these media-chosen critics answer? What responsibility do they shoulder beyond going home to bed each night?)

    Most of us will remember how the term ‘controversial’ also entered MSM usage. It’s the label tacked onto any (usually conservative) assertion the MSM wishes to deny. (It can be the prelude to that full blown hyperbole, ‘scandal.’)
    I note that the fairminded AP began its March 20 ‘news’story about the President today with a device. The President’s Iraq remarks opened the story and –within the opening paragraph!–were instantly slammed for failing to tell the whole TRUTH. Knowing the whole truth is quite an impressive claim. Whose arrogance has decided that big issue?

    Ask the AP.

  8. Well, each of us has our little burden to carry, and reading the Legacy Media isn’t mine, for which I’m profoundly grateful.

    As for who are the Kool-Aid drinkers, I’m having fun reading the translations of all those tapes and documents from Iraq…..would someone please explain why they weren’t released a couple of years ago?

  9. They weren’t released because the Pentagon have a munch of bureacrats running the show, along with the bureacrats in the CIA and the State Depot.

    Bush won’t fire or punish this bureacrats, so theese cancerous cells will end up killing the body eventually.

    They already tried to put a stop to translating these things. When was the last one, March 17? Something like that.

  10. Do you think the media suppressed the tapes?

    Well before the war, the media began hyping the event– Showdown with Saddam, and Countdown to Iraq, etc. The New York Times was an invaluable conduit of disinformation regarding the nature of Saddam’s WMD, which is a role the paper has played for quite some time.

    The foreign press, however, which was one of the few places former CIA agents sounding the alarm got any attention, was very good at sifting through the B.S.

    In March, 2002, one year before the war began former UN official Denis Halliday (who quit in protest, as did his successor) said this:

    “Saddam Hussein is not a threat to the U.S. . . . The experts say that Saddam doesn’t have the capacity to manufacture weapons of mass destruction (WMD) — and even if he could somehow acquire that capacity, he certainly doesn’t have the capacity to deliver them. This has been confirmed by [former Defense Secretary William S.] Cohen when he left the Department of Defense last year, it’s been confirmed by Mr. Powell,* the current secretary of state, it’s been confirmed by people like Scott Ritter. . . . The whole weapons inspection issue is really just a ruse. The real agenda of the Bush administration is a regime change .

    * (In Feb , May and July, 2001 Colin Powell and Condi Rice both said that Saddam’s WMD program was washed up and that he was not a threat to us or his neighbors).

    Now, this is where you either:

    1) Look up dirt about Mr. Halliday
    2) Attack Halliday for working with the UN
    3) Attack him for being an Irishman, who obviously doesn’t understand the US
    4) Attack Halliday for bringing up that sellout and pedophile Scott Ritter
    5) Say that Salon.com, which interviewed Halliday, is a leftist rag not worth its pixels
    or
    (in a perfect world)
    6) Read what he had to say and concede that Halliday’s analysis of the WMD issue and threat was more accurate than others

    While it’s true that the Clinton adminstration also got it wrong and members of Bush 41’s White House thought Saddam most likely had WMDs, their assessment of what would occur in the aftermath of such an invasion was right on target.

    My favorite quote, following the first Gulf War:

    “From the brief time that we did spend occupying Iraqi territory after the war, I am certain that had we taken all of Iraq, we would have been like the dinosaur in the tar pit — we would still be there, and we, not the United Nations, would be bearing the costs of the occupation.”– Norman Schwarzkopf, from his 1993 autobiography, It Doesn’t Take a Hero

    The realists were right. The neoconservatives were wrong.

    Most are now admitting as much.

  11. I don’t know why I’m bothering, but you haven’t proven what you said you would. You claim that Bush is not using a straw man when he says “Some look at the challenges in Iraq and conclude that the war is lost and not worth another dime or another day.” And you claim this statement could be attributed to either John Murtha or Cindy Sheehan. But neither of your links has them saying anything remotely like what Bush claimed they did. In fact, not only to you fail to prove your case, but by calling Murtha and Sheehan “media darlings” you yourself are committing the same error as Bush.

  12. If Norman had done his job and if the President back then had allowed norman to do his job, we wouldn’t have had to waste 140 American lives taking Fallujah twice over. We would already have Fallujah under control, for over 10 years.

    The realists should be realistic, and understand that all they did back then was dump their responsibilities and jobs on the next generation. Bush Senior should understand it quite well, it is his own son cleaning up his father’s messes and broken promises.

  13. Btw, “conclude” means to draw personal beliefs from a set of data. It is not the same as “saying”.

    You can conlude that the war is a waste, but you don’t have to say it. So don’t confuse the two.

  14. Bookworm, Did you know this post is linked at Columbia Journalism Review’s CJRDaily? See http://www.cjrdaily.org/behind_the_news/ap_story_serves_as_political_r.php, AP Story Serves as Political Rorschach Blot by Edward B. Colby, March 20.

  15. Thanks for your post, i am doing a study on this and you have gibven me some great info

    Greats

    Jackie

    Jack@seem.com

  16. the bar called about the ball room

  17. […] written before about Jennifer Loven (here, here, and here). Her husband is a Democratic party operative, and most of her “news” […]

  18. Earl and Y,
    Just a note on those tapes and documents. I know (and worked alongside) the folks at the Foreign Military Studies Office that are doing a large chunk of the unclassified/declassified work. There’s three to eight (depending on contracts and Title 10 active duty orders for reservists) people working on the project. It’s not their only job, either. There are, that I know of, about two ROOMS of paper documents to translate. Not little rooms, either. No one has a good count – just fill a 12×12 office from wall to wall with five drawer filing cabinets crammed with paper and you get the picture. The problem is the number of available linguists (already at a premium for DOD), the number of analysts (who have to review the translated document and ensure that it is, indeed, proper for release), and two individuals who I adore who put it on the darn website (I won’t name them, but if you know FMSO, you know them!).
    It is a massive job that just eats resources that are already stretched thin. Historical data is wonderful; current data becomes intelligence that saves lives. We still own a warehouse of documents (I kid you not) on Noriega. I helped sort video tapes (VHS and BETA) for shipment to the states; there were three of the shipping tri-walls (four foot by four foot by three foot tall) filled completely and we had another two marked for destruction. That was about a quarter of the tapes in the warehouse. As far as I know, there’s one or two guys still going through that stuff (going on eighteen years later) for items of interest.
    More will be out as it can; right now there’s just so much those folks can do.

    Have a Merry Christmas!
    SGT Dave
    “The problem with intelligence is finding out what you don’t know you don’t know and which stuff you do know that actually is relevant.” – Wise old CW4

  19. […] making these statements, as critiques at Powerline, the American Federalist Journal, and the Bookworm Room, among many others (HT Columbia Journalism Review), pointed out at the time. So Bush’s […]

  20. […] making these statements, as critiques at Powerline, the American Federalist Journal, and the Bookworm Room, among many others (HT Columbia Journalism Review), pointed out at the time. So Bush’s […]

  21. Howdy!How are you? I’m happy that you are still around “the internet” 😛 Did you had problems with Google during the last update? It seems that your blog is one of the strongest in the current SERP’s! Keep that up and don’t forget to msg me when you catch some free time 🙂 Bye! 🙂

Leave a comment