More brave new world stuff

Oy vey:

A sperm donor who helped a lesbian couple have two children is now being forced to pay thousands of pounds for their upbringing, he said.

Andy Bathie, 37, agreed to assist Sharon and Terri Arnold – who were united in a religious blessing ceremony – after they assured him he would have no involvement in raising the boy and girl.

But after the couple split up he was tracked down by the Child Support Agency and forced to make regular maintenance payments.

Mr Bathie, a fireman from Enfield, north London, said the financial burden was preventing him from starting his own family.

“These women wanted to be parents and take on all the responsibilities that brings. I would never have agreed to this unless they had been living as a committed family. And now I can’t afford to have children with my own wife – it’s crippling me financially,” he said.

He is now bringing a legal challenge to remove his responsibilities as a parent to the two children in a case believed to be the first of its kind.

Mr Bathie, who pays £450 [$925] a month in maintenance, cannot afford to employ a solicitor or barrister to take up his case but will approach his local MP, Joan Ryan, in the hope she can highlight his plight in the Commons.

He is seeking a retrospective change in the law that would place paternal responsibility on Sharon Arnold, who was the non-biological mother in the lesbian relationship.

Mr Bathie was approached by the couple five years ago after they had unsuccessfully asked other male friends, but no formal legal arrangement was put in place.

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“When they (Terri and Sharon) first approached me I did look into the legal side and understood that as a couple they would be the parents, not me. I was never ‘Daddy’,” he told a newspaper.

“The only reason these children are here is because they wanted children as a couple which means they should take responsibility. The CSA admit that mine is an unusual case – this is double standards and I’m having money stolen by the Government.”

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The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority said that private sperm donors are liable financially unless they donate through a licensed clinic.

“We would warn men providing genetic material that the only time they are not the father is when they donate through a licensed fertility clinic. This does not apply to unlicensed websites or home insemination,” said a spokesman.

Natalie Gamble, a fertility law expert at Lester Aldridge who advised Mr Bathie recently, said the non-biological mother in the lesbian relationship currently had no legal responsibility for the children’s upbringing.

“At the moment she has no responsibility at all, which seems rather unfair. She ought to have some responsibility towards the children she has helped bring into the world,” she said.

The Government is seeking to reform the legislation to give equal parenting rights to same-sex couples who form civil partnerships.

Had it been in place when Mr Bathie donated sperm it would have meant his right as a father would have passed to the non-biological mother.

Mrs Gamble said the law was becoming obsolete as a result of changes to the family structure.

11 Responses

  1. A sperm donor who helped a lesbian couple have two children is now being forced to pay thousands of pounds for their upbringing, he said.

    Well, the turkey baster certainly couldn’t pay!

  2. That’s absurd. It’s yet another example of why the law sometimes is an ass.

    BHG

  3. In a similar vein – I recently sat through an infertility lecture in the nursing school I am attending. During the lecture, the professor defined infertility and then went on to tell us that in addition to couples, single women and lesbians can be infertile.

    Of course, at first I assumed that the professor was referring to lesbian/single women who had, in some fashion, attempted pregnancy using the usual or even clinical means but were determined to be physically incapable of having a baby after years of trying. But it soon became very clear that what was meant was that because lesbians and some single women might be UNWILLING to have intercourse and therefore must utilize other options, they are automatically deemed infertile and so are worthy of everyone’s sympathy and understanding, just like those couples you see who have done everything under the sun for years just to have a baby.

    All I could think about were the couples I have known who have gone through years of unsuccessful fertility treatments. Are we supposed to compare their experience with that of a 28 year old lesbian or single woman who decides one day that she wants a baby and just shows up at the sperm bank because the “traditional method” just doesn’t work for her????

    In my mind, the whole thing is just an attempt to make it appear as if one man and one woman are not essential for the perpetuation of humanity. Or families for that matter.

  4. Eeeeeuuuw!

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  7. Deana,

    You said that the professor said this? I am just trying to be certain before pulling my hair out. When the whole gay marriage /civil union debate started, I was willing to listen to both sides of the matter,.The gays and lesbians i’ve known were reasonable people. Now I’m starting to ask where the moderates are. When it comes to our nutty social activists, we need a Juan Carlos moment.

  8. This is just proof of the old adage, . . . . no good seed goes unpunished

  9. expat –

    Yes. The professor glossed over it quickly because this topic, along with abortion, can lead to difficult discussions. When it was mentioned in class, the professor looked at us and said, “Well, you see, the sperm and egg have to meet and that may not happen with single women, lesbians . . .” She said this because she appeared to think the class didn’t get at first why single women/lesbians were included in the infertility group. And then we quickly moved on.

    I didn’t say anything because the professor is absolutely wonderful and I respect her a great deal. But women (single or lesbian) must undergo the same fertility treatments as couples do for the same amount of time before they can be considered infertile.

  10. In my mind, the whole thing is just an attempt to make it appear as if one man and one woman are not essential for the perpetuation of humanity. Or families for that matter.

    Leftist social re-engineering, Deana. The new and old eugenics solution for the age old problem of uppity commoners.

    It is simply better to plan families, since the only alternative is to have the individuals make their own decisions based upon their needs and capabilities. That, of course, cannot be allowed by the State.

  11. Question–if there had been two donors for the two kids would these women have been allowed to receive child support from both daddies?
    And did the sperm donated come out of one ejaculation or two?

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