Is the worm turning?

David Gold has a local conservative radio show.  While I was in my car the other day, I heard him ask why the jihadis are bombing England, rather than America.  I didn’t hear either his answer or the answers the audience called in, but I do have an idea.  I think the jihadis are targeting England because they think it’s more likely than America to respond as Spain did to a bombing.  That is, one good terror campaign, they think, and England will capitulate to any terrorist demands, including flying the crescent flag over Buckingham Palace.

Now, much as I deride the Brits and loath the resurgent anti-Semitism in that country — an anti-Semitism more reminiscent of Nazi Germany than of any time in British history since 1190 — I think the jihadists are underestimating British backbone when faced with terror tactics.  After all, the British dealt with IRA terror for decades.  If the terrorism works, it won’t be because Britons cave out of simple fear.  Instead, any bowing to Muslim overlords will come about because radical Leftists and anti-Semites have made such inroads into British society that they convince fellow Brits that its entirely legitimate for the jihadis to blow everyone up and that Brits must retreat before them, not out of fear, but because it’s the right thing to do.

There are signs, however, that the British worm is turning.  You may recall this video, made by one very fed up Brit.  Then, today I read a really nasty post by a British journalist, using his space at The Telegraph blog, saying that Karen Armstrong, the Left’s beloved apologist for Islam, is an idiot:

Islam could do with some good PR this weekend, don’t you think? Send for Karen Armstrong, the conceited ex-nun who jets around the world telling people that Islam is simply, simply adorable and the rest of us are a nasty bunch of Crusaders.

Karen has just given an interview to a newspaper in Malaysia in which she tells the world’s Muslims that she’s wearing herself out doing their work for them: in fact, it has given her a nasty cough and cold. But, first, she establishes where the real blame lies:

“Well, the West has found it always very difficult to understand Islam. Islamaphobia dates right back to the time of the Crusades when we tended to project worries about our own behaviour unto Islam.

“I think what would be helpful would be if Muslims undertook a counter-offensive…”

I think they are, Karen. Oh, sorry, I’ll let you continue.

“… and started to project the peaceful image of Islam more energetically. Trying to find a more imaginative and creative way of expressing this.

“After 9/11 I suggested that American Muslims organise a march going down to the World Trade Centre. That sort of thing. It’s for you to decide how to do it. But, I think, some such initiative would be helpful.”

Read the rest here.

Oh, and how about Tony Blair, freed from the shackles of Prime Ministership, going on a rampage against the civil liberties crowd that would rather see Britain blown up entirely, than see one Muslim with hurt feelings (h/t Michelle Malkin):

Tony Blair has launched a powerful attack on ‘absurd’ British Islamists who have nurtured a false ‘sense of grievance’ that they are being oppressed by Britain and the United States.

In his most outspoken remarks on Islamists, the former Prime Minister warns that Britain is in danger of losing the battle against terrorists unless mainstream society confronts the threat.

***

‘The idea that as a Muslim in this country that you don’t have the freedom to express your religion or your views, I mean you’ve got far more freedom in this country than you do in most Muslim countries,’ Blair told Observer columnist Will Hutton, who presents the documentary.

‘The reason we are finding it hard to win this battle is that we’re not actually fighting it properly. We’re not actually standing up to these people and saying, “It’s not just your methods that are wrong, your ideas are absurd. Nobody is oppressing you. Your sense of grievance isn’t justified.”‘

***

Blair, who normally chooses his language carefully when he talks about Islamists, also takes a swipe at critics who accused him of undermining civil liberties. ‘When I’m trying to change the law in order to make it easier to deport people who engage in terrorism – the idea that that’s an assault on hundreds of years of British civil liberties is completely absurd. Some of what is written on this is loopy-loo in its extremism.’

I’m wondering now, as I’ve wondered before, if the jihadists pushed too far, too fast with their violence, creating a backlash that might prove their undoing.  If they’d been patient, and worked through demographics and Fifth Columns, slowly infiltrating themselves into one society after another, they might have surprised everyone by having the upper hand in 20 or 25 years.  By rushing things through violence and by making their faux grievances too obvious, perhaps, just perhaps, they might be hoisting themselves by their own petards.

14 Responses

  1. Bush has been criticized for his comment “If you are not with us, you are with the terrorists.” The world has been trying to deny this for 6 years and has been blaming Bush for causing the problems. But in fact, the denial has been the problem, not just in the West; the denial in the Islamic world has been greater. If you saw the pictures from Michael Yon’s report yesterday of the massacred Iraqis, you cannot deny that these jihadis don’t care about anything but satisfying their rage. I am not sure that they willingly pushed too far too fast. I think they have been forced to show themselves. The hatred they have incited for years with their hate preachers and martyr videos simply cannot be maintained by cool strategic thinking. It has to be nourished regularly with blood. And slowly from Anbar to Glasgow, people are becoming aware of what “with the terrorists” really means. We are working our way to the end of the beginning.

  2. Britain isn’t monolithic, since after all they still have the plucky Irish and Scots. And they haven’t quite been infiltrated and subverted as the mainland.

    Also the terrorists by failing, lose their power over the populace. Only successful terrorist attacks like Madrid and threats of successful attacks can control the minds of the populace. Not failed attempts, that just pisses people off and gets them angry, and when people are angry they resist more.

  3. I have met wonderful Muslim human beings. Here in America, we have wonderful testaments to the professional abilities and creativities of our Muslim citizens (including Chicago’s Sears Tower, for example). But, that only reflects what Muslims can achieve in non-Muslim societies. Islam itself is a loser religion that has contributed nothing but oppression and material and intellectual poverty to the world. Scratch any deeper against its purported claims (e.g., mathematical concepts) and you find that they were expropriated from others (i.e., Hindus, Greeks).

    I actually heard an Iranian fundamentalist point with pride to Istanbul’s Hagia Sofia as an example of Islam’s superior contributions to architecture.

    What amazes me is that so many Western “intellectuals” will bend over backwards to eulogize the very same religion and culture that would destroy their cherished temples of knowledge, not to mention destroy they themselves, just as it destroyed the reknown library at Alexandria. Islam was borne as a religion of pirates and caravan raiders. For too many Muslims, this is still the same today.

    Unfortunately, the jihadi fundamentalists are behaving true to the dictates of the Koran. If you don’t believe me, then try reading it. The Koran does not allow for interpretation or skepticism. It is literally claimed to be the unabridged work of “god” (although it certainly is not the God that we Judeo-Christians would recognize).

    The world of Dar-al-Islam can and must reform (e.g., Turkey, Indonesia) and needs to reform. If it can’t, then it needs to be obliterated from the world community just like the malignant cancers of Naziism and Communism, which survive today only in the isolated swamps of political fringe groups and American Liberal Arts universities.

  4. If they don’t reform, they’re going to get hammered. And not by the PC police. Something a bit more physical and permanent. A Hammer of God perhaps.

  5. A few years ago Daniel Pipes wrote that France (!) has shown itself to be better at fighting Islamism than England.

  6. “The theory and practice of jihad was not concocted in the Pentagon… It was taken from the Koran, the Hadith, and Islamic tradition. Western liberals, especially humanists, find it hard to believe this… It is extraordinary the amount of people who have written about the 11th of September without once mentioning Islam. We must take seriously what the Islamists say to understand their motivation, it is the divinely ordained duty of all Muslims to fight in the literal sense until man-made law has been replaced by God’s law, the Sharia, and Islamic law has conquered the entire world.” – Ibn Warraq

    “I satudied the Quran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction that by and large there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad. So far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so visible today in the Muslim world and, though less absurd than the polytheism of old, its social and political tendencies are in my opinion more to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself.” – Alexis de Tocqueville

    “In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar the Egyptian. combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolationa nd delusion over an extensive portion of the earth… he poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SP[IRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE… While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth and good will towards men.” (emphasis in the original.) – John Quincy Adams

    “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! besides the fanatical frenxy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the infoluence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.” – Winston Churchill

    “Ever since the religion of Islam appeared in the world, the espousers of it have been as wolves and tigers to all other nations, rending and tearing all that fell into their merciless paws, and grinding them with their iron teeth; that numberless cities are razed to the foundation, and only their names remaining; that many countries, which once were as the gardens of God, are now a desolate wilderness; and that so many once numerous and powerful nations are vanished from the earth! Such was, and is at this day, the rage, the fury, the revenge, of these destroyers of human kind.” – John Wesley

    “Bolshevism combines the characteristics of the French Revolution with those of the rise of Islam. Marx has taught that Communism is fatally predestined to come about; this produces a state of mind not unlike that of the early successors of Mohammad. Among religions, Bolshevism is to be reckoned with Mohammedanism rather than with Christianity and Buddhism. Christianity and Buddhism are primarily personal religions, with mystical doctrines and a love of contemplation. Mohammedanism and Bolshevism are practical, social, unspiritual, concerned to win the empire of this world.” – Bertrand Russell

    Time to stop being politically correct with Islam. It is NOT “a great religion hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists.” Islam is a religion of peace that will come only when everyone is Muslim – or at the very least subject to the Islamic state. To establish that Peace, Islam must wage war. They have been doing so for 1,400 years.

    Nice to see Tony Blair, now that he’s out of the chair and doesn’t need to be so mealy-mouthed diplomatic, beginning to move away from the PC BS.

    Warfare against the unbelievers is not a twisting of Islam: it is repeatedly affirmed, called for, celebrated,a nd admired in the Qu’ran, the Ahadith, the example of Muhammad and the rulings of every school of Islamic jurisprudence.

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  8. I sincerely hope that you are right, Bookworm, but we should never understimate the corrosive and pervasive effect that the morally relativistic left in the West has had on society. I really question our ability and desire to fight the war that needs to be fought.

    BHG

  9. Danny, for all the reform talk about Indonesia and Turkey, the fact remains that both those so-called moderately Islamic countries are being swayed toward fanatical Islam via the very democratic processes that brought us Hamastan. Christians in both Indonesia and Turkey are quarry for the muslim…with little or no sympathy and help from secular governments. Islam is a cancer.

  10. Juahara…I don’t disagree. However, Ataturk’s Turkey does offer a viable alternative to the disasters that the other Muslim nations present. Indonesia is also problematic, for many reasons…but it is still a viable democracy.

    One of the fundamental facts that the Liberal/Left media refuses to recognize about the current clash of civilization is the abject failures of Muslim societies.

    Unlike the other major world religions, Islam scores a big fat zero for its contributions to modern civilization. I throw this statement out as a challenge to be refuted. Anyone?

  11. It’s irrefutable, Danny. I doubt anyone here will try.

  12. For someone who claims to be a bookworm…you really write some uninformed stuff…WHat is the West?

  13. You ever notice Book, that critics of your work are themselves unable to make cogent points when they accuse you of bad writing? Do you think that it is so hard for them to use quotes or bolding in comments, and address specific points and disagreements?

    Not hard for me, but then if I think something you said is wrong, I can actually explain why.

  14. I think that you are right, JJ. The silence is deafening. Great compendium of quotes on Islam, by the way. I copy-pasted them for future reference.

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