Comments on: Britain begins outsourcing health care — to the patients http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/ She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:52:35 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Jose http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105632 Jose Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:43:22 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105632 Before I left the UK 15 years ago, there was a big media flap about the NHS providing tattoo removal at no cost. One proponent stated there was nothing wrong with removing a tattoo, possibly the result of a single drunken lapse of judgment, compared to treating lung cancer and emphysema sufferers, following years of willful disregard to the known dangers of smoking. No doubt the non-smoking and non-tattooed tax payers have been footing the bill for all self induced conditions to the point where the NHS has to cut services anywhere else it can. Before I left the UK 15 years ago, there was a big media flap about the NHS providing tattoo removal at no cost. One proponent stated there was nothing wrong with removing a tattoo, possibly the result of a single drunken lapse of judgment, compared to treating lung cancer and emphysema sufferers, following years of willful disregard to the known dangers of smoking.

No doubt the non-smoking and non-tattooed tax payers have been footing the bill for all self induced conditions to the point where the NHS has to cut services anywhere else it can.

]]> By: Marguerite http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105602 Marguerite Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:52:24 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105602 Our son has already encountered this phenomenon under a major health care provider in the good old US of A. Upon a rather cursory exam, the HCP (formerly known as doctor) asked him 'Is this something you could live with?' While his medical issue was not life-threatening he was relieved to see that upon leaving the clinic he WAS still in the US and could probably find a doctor who was interested in treating his medical condition. Our son has already encountered this phenomenon under a major health care provider in the good old US of A. Upon a rather cursory exam, the HCP (formerly known as doctor) asked him ‘Is this something you could live with?’ While his medical issue was not life-threatening he was relieved to see that upon leaving the clinic he WAS still in the US and could probably find a doctor who was interested in treating his medical condition.

]]> By: Al http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105564 Al Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:35:10 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105564 Just to take this Wonderland plan of health care further down the rabbit hole, if a self-monitoring patient miss reads his instrumentation, is he guilty of malpractice? And if so, does the NHS remove health benefits and punishment? Al Just to take this Wonderland plan of health care further down the rabbit hole, if a self-monitoring patient miss reads his instrumentation, is he guilty of malpractice? And if so, does the NHS remove health benefits and punishment?
Al

]]> By: ymarsakar http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105555 ymarsakar Wed, 02 Jan 2008 12:57:33 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105555 I didn't <I>have</I> blog posting tools, Book, when I started. So it was either learn or starve. I didn’t have blog posting tools, Book, when I started. So it was either learn or starve.

]]> By: GW http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105505 GW Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:58:12 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105505 Thanks for the kind comment left on my blog. The Orwellian aspects of this plan kind of smack one in the face, do they not. Thanks for the kind comment left on my blog. The Orwellian aspects of this plan kind of smack one in the face, do they not.

]]> By: Bookworm http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105498 Bookworm Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:20:59 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105498 No worries about embedding. I cheat and use my blog posting tool to embed, and then copy the text and paste it in comments. There's fairly easy code, but I've just never bothered to memorize it, and I don't think anyone here minds links that aren't hyperlinked to text. No worries about embedding. I cheat and use my blog posting tool to embed, and then copy the text and paste it in comments. There’s fairly easy code, but I’ve just never bothered to memorize it, and I don’t think anyone here minds links that aren’t hyperlinked to text.

]]> By: rockdalian http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105495 rockdalian Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:13:20 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105495 Btw, I am a relative computer novice and I do not know how to embed a link in a post like the one above. Btw, I am a relative computer novice and I do not know how to embed a link in a post like the one above.

]]> By: rockdalian http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105494 rockdalian Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:07:30 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105494 Then there is this story titled "Smokers, drinkers and the obese beware: keep fit or risk losing NHS care" in the Daily Mail @http://tinyurl.com/2wdm4k. The majority of commenters are against the plan. This is the best of the comments. "Under this new system, the values are false in who they select as being worthy of medical help. Take this scenario: a paedophile may well be a non-smoking teetotaller who attends the gym daily. His victims may well develop eating disorders or smoking habits because of the damage he has done to them. Yet they will be deemed unworthy of NHS care and treatment whereas he will be able to access all the benefits denied to his victims. Under this proposed system this WILL undoubtedly happen. People become obese or develop addictions for many reasons, and to force them to struggle on without help is completely barbaric. These social ideas will take us back to the Dark Ages. - Richard N, Greensborough, Australia" I read this at the blog of James Hudnall and the comment from Jim Brocius Then there is this story titled “Smokers, drinkers and the obese beware: keep fit or risk losing NHS care” in the Daily Mail @http://tinyurl.com/2wdm4k.

The majority of commenters are against the plan. This is the best of the comments.

“Under this new system, the values are false in who they select as being worthy of medical help. Take this scenario: a paedophile may well be a non-smoking teetotaller who attends the gym daily. His victims may well develop eating disorders or smoking habits because of the damage he has done to them. Yet they will be deemed unworthy of NHS care and treatment whereas he will be able to access all the benefits denied to his victims. Under this proposed system this WILL undoubtedly happen. People become obese or develop addictions for many reasons, and to force them to struggle on without help is completely barbaric. These social ideas will take us back to the Dark Ages.

- Richard N, Greensborough, Australia”

I read this at the blog of James Hudnall and the comment from Jim Brocius

]]> By: Webloggin - Blog Archive » National Health Care Crisis - Brit Patients Told to Treat Themselves http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105481 Webloggin - Blog Archive » National Health Care Crisis - Brit Patients Told to Treat Themselves Wed, 02 Jan 2008 02:16:32 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105481 [...] [Discuss This Topic with Bookworm at Bookworm Room] Share Article Sphere: Related Content Trackback URL [...] [...] [Discuss This Topic with Bookworm at Bookworm Room] Share Article Sphere: Related Content Trackback URL [...]

]]> By: ymarsakar http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105470 ymarsakar Wed, 02 Jan 2008 01:35:27 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/britain-begins-outsourcing-health-care-to-the-patients/#comment-105470 Btw, there's a jack load of people that like the idea of free healthcare and believe that in Europe it is working. Which just goes to show you that facts are far less important than having a good propaganda apparatus to inform the populace. Btw, there’s a jack load of people that like the idea of free healthcare and believe that in Europe it is working.

Which just goes to show you that facts are far less important than having a good propaganda apparatus to inform the populace.

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