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	<title>Comments on: Ann &#8212; an open mouth is not a resting place for your foot</title>
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	<description>She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast</description>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/ann-an-open-mouth-is-not-a-resting-place-for-your-foot/#comment-83332</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;Any discussion of Ann Coulter’s strong defense of her faith should examine the forced conversion issue, and the fact that here in the West we simply don’t DO that.&lt;/b&gt;

Excluding the Left of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Any discussion of Ann Coulter’s strong defense of her faith should examine the forced conversion issue, and the fact that here in the West we simply don’t DO that.</b></p>
<p>Excluding the Left of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/ann-an-open-mouth-is-not-a-resting-place-for-your-foot/#comment-82884</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good time to remind ourselves of what is so great about our old-school Western approach to religion.  (Not the new-school approach...)

People of faith whose faith is deep LIVE that faith daily.  They will try to move you to adopt their faith via their words and via the way they live their lives as an example.  They are incredibly persistent because it is that important to them.  They don&#039;t make any noises about how worthwhile other religions are because they simply don&#039;t believe it.

And that is entirely correct and fine.

But here is what they DON&#039;T DO:
When someone leaves their faith for another faith, or adopts agnosticism or atheism, that other person is not to be stalked or murdered or suffer severe social retribution.  People of deep faith will try to rescue the lost sheep via words and examples, but no Force is ever involved.  In theocratic Muslim countries, you abandon your faith at extreme peril.  If you&#039;re not absolutely quiet and deceptive about it, your life is in danger.

If Ann Coulter actually advocated the forced conversion of people to Islam - oops, Christianity, sorry there! ;-)  - she should be vilified.  I doubt she went that far, since she&#039;s usually very careful in her choice of words.

Any discussion of Ann Coulter&#039;s strong defense of her faith should examine the forced conversion issue, and the fact that here in the West we simply don&#039;t DO that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good time to remind ourselves of what is so great about our old-school Western approach to religion.  (Not the new-school approach&#8230;)</p>
<p>People of faith whose faith is deep LIVE that faith daily.  They will try to move you to adopt their faith via their words and via the way they live their lives as an example.  They are incredibly persistent because it is that important to them.  They don&#8217;t make any noises about how worthwhile other religions are because they simply don&#8217;t believe it.</p>
<p>And that is entirely correct and fine.</p>
<p>But here is what they DON&#8217;T DO:<br />
When someone leaves their faith for another faith, or adopts agnosticism or atheism, that other person is not to be stalked or murdered or suffer severe social retribution.  People of deep faith will try to rescue the lost sheep via words and examples, but no Force is ever involved.  In theocratic Muslim countries, you abandon your faith at extreme peril.  If you&#8217;re not absolutely quiet and deceptive about it, your life is in danger.</p>
<p>If Ann Coulter actually advocated the forced conversion of people to Islam &#8211; oops, Christianity, sorry there! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &#8211; she should be vilified.  I doubt she went that far, since she&#8217;s usually very careful in her choice of words.</p>
<p>Any discussion of Ann Coulter&#8217;s strong defense of her faith should examine the forced conversion issue, and the fact that here in the West we simply don&#8217;t DO that.</p>
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		<title>By: E. G. Weisbord</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/ann-an-open-mouth-is-not-a-resting-place-for-your-foot/#comment-82643</link>
		<dc:creator>E. G. Weisbord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote yourself, &quot;Since we do not recognize Christ..&quot; nor do we refer to him as such either, since it is the Christian definition of saviour. I suggest using Jesus and not Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote yourself, &#8220;Since we do not recognize Christ..&#8221; nor do we refer to him as such either, since it is the Christian definition of saviour. I suggest using Jesus and not Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Why I am angry at Ann Coulter &#171; Conservative Liberal</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/ann-an-open-mouth-is-not-a-resting-place-for-your-foot/#comment-82627</link>
		<dc:creator>Why I am angry at Ann Coulter &#171; Conservative Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 04:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] think she is anti-Semitic.  But let me start from the beginning.  A couple of days ago I read Bookworm&#8217;s post about Ann Coulter putting her foot in her mouth again.  I&#8217;d like to add my own comment on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] think she is anti-Semitic.  But let me start from the beginning.  A couple of days ago I read Bookworm&#8217;s post about Ann Coulter putting her foot in her mouth again.  I&#8217;d like to add my own comment on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/ann-an-open-mouth-is-not-a-resting-place-for-your-foot/#comment-82568</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But Jews do have reason to fear Christianity, which turned on them for centuries.&lt;/i&gt;

See, here is the rub. In roughly the last 60 years things have improved dramatically. There are still people here in LA that remember when certain country clubs refused membership to Jews. There are still people who remember quotas and things of that nature.

At 38 I have two personal stories of antisemitism. I don&#039;t believe that Xtians are out to get us. I think that the overwhelming majority are good people, but there is a lot of ignorance in the world.

And the concern about that ignorance and Coulter&#039;s promulgation of part of an idea that was used to hurt us justifiably causes concern.

Notice that I am not calling her names or making wild accusations of antisemitism. Just saying that it is not unreasonable to pay attention to these remarks.


&lt;i&gt;Modern Judiasm does not crown Jesus as God but it does accept his teachings and grants him “prophet” status — no small deal&lt;/i&gt;

No it doesn&#039;t. Frankly there is no consensus on whether he actually existed or is just a compendium of thoughts put together by various people. His name never comes up other than in discussions such as this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But Jews do have reason to fear Christianity, which turned on them for centuries.</i></p>
<p>See, here is the rub. In roughly the last 60 years things have improved dramatically. There are still people here in LA that remember when certain country clubs refused membership to Jews. There are still people who remember quotas and things of that nature.</p>
<p>At 38 I have two personal stories of antisemitism. I don&#8217;t believe that Xtians are out to get us. I think that the overwhelming majority are good people, but there is a lot of ignorance in the world.</p>
<p>And the concern about that ignorance and Coulter&#8217;s promulgation of part of an idea that was used to hurt us justifiably causes concern.</p>
<p>Notice that I am not calling her names or making wild accusations of antisemitism. Just saying that it is not unreasonable to pay attention to these remarks.</p>
<p><i>Modern Judiasm does not crown Jesus as God but it does accept his teachings and grants him “prophet” status — no small deal</i></p>
<p>No it doesn&#8217;t. Frankly there is no consensus on whether he actually existed or is just a compendium of thoughts put together by various people. His name never comes up other than in discussions such as this one.</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/ann-an-open-mouth-is-not-a-resting-place-for-your-foot/#comment-82539</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it wasn&#039;t for the Spanish, the SPI would have been as moderate as the Jesuits in the Vatican circa 1633.

Spain set their own policies in relation to religion during those times, which a person would know had they learned of the limitations placed upon Papal power back in the day.

For every propagandist, there is a context that must be dealt with, neutralized, or bypassed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it wasn&#8217;t for the Spanish, the SPI would have been as moderate as the Jesuits in the Vatican circa 1633.</p>
<p>Spain set their own policies in relation to religion during those times, which a person would know had they learned of the limitations placed upon Papal power back in the day.</p>
<p>For every propagandist, there is a context that must be dealt with, neutralized, or bypassed.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy Bookworm,

Thanks, I wasn&#039;t talking about events eons ago.  But since Mr. Dagon brought up the subject, I blogged in response to his base accusations against Christianity.  

I would actually like to thank Mr. Dagon for his comments, without which I would have been at a loss for the subject of this week&#039;s post.  He provided me the topic and I&#039;m grateful.

Here&#039;s an excerpt:

&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s a constant source of oddity to see otherwise educated people deride Christianity. A commenter on Bookworm’s blog,Mr. Dagon, and many like-minded people relish in pointing out the horrors of Christendom in history but have they asked themselves the simple inauspicious question, Christianity is horrible in comparison to what?&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy Bookworm,</p>
<p>Thanks, I wasn&#8217;t talking about events eons ago.  But since Mr. Dagon brought up the subject, I blogged in response to his base accusations against Christianity.  </p>
<p>I would actually like to thank Mr. Dagon for his comments, without which I would have been at a loss for the subject of this week&#8217;s post.  He provided me the topic and I&#8217;m grateful.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s a constant source of oddity to see otherwise educated people deride Christianity. A commenter on Bookworm’s blog,Mr. Dagon, and many like-minded people relish in pointing out the horrors of Christendom in history but have they asked themselves the simple inauspicious question, Christianity is horrible in comparison to what?</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: In defense of Christendom &#124; The Thomas Chronicles</title>
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		<dc:creator>In defense of Christendom &#124; The Thomas Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a constant source of oddity to see otherwise educated people deride Christianity. A commenter on Bookworm&#8217;s blog,Mr. Dagon, and many like-minded people relish in pointing out the &#8220;horrors&#8221; of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a constant source of oddity to see otherwise educated people deride Christianity. A commenter on Bookworm&#8217;s blog,Mr. Dagon, and many like-minded people relish in pointing out the &#8220;horrors&#8221; of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/ann-an-open-mouth-is-not-a-resting-place-for-your-foot/#comment-82528</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s cool about Christianity and Judaism is that they continue to evolve.  Modern Judiasm does not crown Jesus as God but it does accept  his teachings and grants him &quot;prophet&quot; status -- no small deal. So we both believe in the Golden Rule and &quot;you shall love your neighbor as yourself&quot; as really, really important.

 What is scary about Islam is that it is stuck in the Dark Ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s cool about Christianity and Judaism is that they continue to evolve.  Modern Judiasm does not crown Jesus as God but it does accept  his teachings and grants him &#8220;prophet&#8221; status &#8212; no small deal. So we both believe in the Golden Rule and &#8220;you shall love your neighbor as yourself&#8221; as really, really important.</p>
<p> What is scary about Islam is that it is stuck in the Dark Ages.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/ann-an-open-mouth-is-not-a-resting-place-for-your-foot/#comment-82506</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m tempted to be Python-esque here, Dagon, and say &quot;nobody [forgets] the Spanish Inquisition.&quot;  I don&#039;t think Thomas was talking about events several hundred years ago.  And I continue to say that, in America, I&#039;m grateful as a Jew not to face either modern anti-Semitism, or &lt;i&gt;old-fashioned&lt;/i&gt;, and, if we&#039;re talking the Inquisition, we mean very old-fashioned, Christian anti-Jewishiness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tempted to be Python-esque here, Dagon, and say &#8220;nobody [forgets] the Spanish Inquisition.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t think Thomas was talking about events several hundred years ago.  And I continue to say that, in America, I&#8217;m grateful as a Jew not to face either modern anti-Semitism, or <i>old-fashioned</i>, and, if we&#8217;re talking the Inquisition, we mean very old-fashioned, Christian anti-Jewishiness.</p>
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