Comments on: Faith and science http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/ She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:52:35 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Mitt the Mormon « Bookworm Room http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-50084 Mitt the Mormon « Bookworm Room Wed, 23 May 2007 16:31:00 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-50084 [...] really, values are what it’s all about.  To me, faith is faith.  For that reason, I would never challenge your belief system.  However, I will celebrate your [...] [...] really, values are what it’s all about.  To me, faith is faith.  For that reason, I would never challenge your belief system.  However, I will celebrate your [...]

]]> By: Webloggin - Blog Archive » Dog Bites Man http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48926 Webloggin - Blog Archive » Dog Bites Man Thu, 17 May 2007 18:51:56 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48926 [...] crime spree is a complete fantasy. Doing that isn’t just politically inconvenient, it attacks an article of faith, which is that rich, straight, white males are evil, and that everyone else, in some way or [...] [...] crime spree is a complete fantasy. Doing that isn’t just politically inconvenient, it attacks an article of faith, which is that rich, straight, white males are evil, and that everyone else, in some way or [...]

]]> By: Dog bites man « Bookworm Room http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48902 Dog bites man « Bookworm Room Thu, 17 May 2007 17:01:33 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48902 [...] spree is a complete fantasy.  Doing that isn’t just politically inconvenient, it attacks an article of faith, which is that rich, straight, white males are evil, and that everyone else, in some way or [...] [...] spree is a complete fantasy.  Doing that isn’t just politically inconvenient, it attacks an article of faith, which is that rich, straight, white males are evil, and that everyone else, in some way or [...]

]]> By: swampacreage http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48843 swampacreage Thu, 17 May 2007 14:33:59 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48843 Why should religion be exempt from reasonabless.Why do they get a free pass ? Those days are over.Time to move on to something more efficient and fair. Ho hum patience. Why should religion be exempt from reasonabless.Why do they get a free pass ? Those days are over.Time to move on to something more efficient and fair. Ho hum patience.

]]> By: Bookworm http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48823 Bookworm Thu, 17 May 2007 13:35:43 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48823 I do think, Nancy, that our society has traditionally had a vested interest in the traditional family group. We've always been structured around the thought that a nuclear family is a good thing. The tax code, with its clauses encouraging marriage and children, is just a manifestation of that basic belief. The gay marriage concept challenges that entire "benefit to society" idea. Gay marriage proponents may be right -- there may be no benefit flowing from a traditional marriage. But they may not. What drives me crazy is the mad rush to change the civil (not religious) face of an ancient institution without any apparent thought to the larger implications beyond "it's unfair to gays." I also do have a problem with the idea that gays might eventually be able to sue religious institutions on discrimination grounds, because those institutions refuse to follow the demands of the state. It's all very difficult, and I think it's a mistake to rush this one. I do think, Nancy, that our society has traditionally had a vested interest in the traditional family group. We’ve always been structured around the thought that a nuclear family is a good thing. The tax code, with its clauses encouraging marriage and children, is just a manifestation of that basic belief. The gay marriage concept challenges that entire “benefit to society” idea. Gay marriage proponents may be right — there may be no benefit flowing from a traditional marriage. But they may not. What drives me crazy is the mad rush to change the civil (not religious) face of an ancient institution without any apparent thought to the larger implications beyond “it’s unfair to gays.” I also do have a problem with the idea that gays might eventually be able to sue religious institutions on discrimination grounds, because those institutions refuse to follow the demands of the state. It’s all very difficult, and I think it’s a mistake to rush this one.

]]> By: swampacreage http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48812 swampacreage Thu, 17 May 2007 12:48:41 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48812 7 % of nature is gay.They have a purpose. For example the next time you have to travel out of town for manly business hire one as a companion for your wife. They can go shopping and do girly things. And you can have peace of mind ! Sheesh God has a purpose for everything.Figure it out ! 7 % of nature is gay.They have a purpose. For example the next time you have to travel out of town for manly business hire one as a companion for your wife. They can go shopping and do girly things. And you can have peace of mind ! Sheesh God has a purpose for everything.Figure it out !

]]> By: swampacreage http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48810 swampacreage Thu, 17 May 2007 12:43:55 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48810 True liberals believe in the scientific method.It is just that simple.They don't pick and choose.They just want to know.They have faith in the all knowing.Hey just a minute they may be the most faithful of the all knowing. Aren't you lucky to receive their benefits LIKE MEDICINE etc.,etc.,etc.,etc.,etc.,etc.,etc., True liberals believe in the scientific method.It is just that simple.They don’t pick and choose.They just want to know.They have faith in the all knowing.Hey just a minute they may be the most faithful of the all knowing. Aren’t you lucky to receive their benefits LIKE MEDICINE etc.,etc.,etc.,etc.,etc.,etc.,etc.,

]]> By: Nancy Coppock http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48676 Nancy Coppock Thu, 17 May 2007 01:33:46 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48676 BW, I agree totally. My husband and I believe marriage is a metaphor used by God to explain His love for His church. The creation story explains that it takes both the man and woman to reveal the image of God. That's why we believe homosexual act is such taboo...it destroys that metaphor. Of course all sin is equal in the eyes of God. I just believe that the institution of marriage began as a religious institution that happens to be recognized by government. Probably it is the tax issue that complicates the entire problem. Dump the IRS and replace it with the Fair Tax and the entire issue becomes a moot point. What do you think? BW,
I agree totally. My husband and I believe marriage is a metaphor used by God to explain His love for His church. The creation story explains that it takes both the man and woman to reveal the image of God. That’s why we believe homosexual act is such taboo…it destroys that metaphor. Of course all sin is equal in the eyes of God.

I just believe that the institution of marriage began as a religious institution that happens to be recognized by government. Probably it is the tax issue that complicates the entire problem. Dump the IRS and replace it with the Fair Tax and the entire issue becomes a moot point.

What do you think?

]]> By: Bookworm http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48666 Bookworm Wed, 16 May 2007 23:39:01 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48666 I'm going to be lazy and refer you to <a href="http://bookwormroom.blogspot.com/2004/11/gay-marriage-v-civil-unions.html" rel="nofollow">a post I did ages ago on the subject</a> (it was one of my earliest posts), and one that I should probably polish up and renew. (By the way, I originally wrote it with formatting, but aged Blogger posts seem to lose that formatting.) My basic feeling is that I think we're rushing slap-dash into changing an institution thousands of years old, which envisions marriage as a union between man and woman. Polygamy might add women to the mix, but they're not there for each other's sexual benefit, only for the man's. Same sex marriage is a change that requires more than a few years contemplation. I’m going to be lazy and refer you to a post I did ages ago on the subject (it was one of my earliest posts), and one that I should probably polish up and renew. (By the way, I originally wrote it with formatting, but aged Blogger posts seem to lose that formatting.) My basic feeling is that I think we’re rushing slap-dash into changing an institution thousands of years old, which envisions marriage as a union between man and woman. Polygamy might add women to the mix, but they’re not there for each other’s sexual benefit, only for the man’s. Same sex marriage is a change that requires more than a few years contemplation.

]]> By: Nancy Coppock http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48654 Nancy Coppock Wed, 16 May 2007 23:03:40 +0000 http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/faith-and-science/#comment-48654 BW and Jack, Please clarify. Do you think the government should stay out of marriage because it is a religious institution only recognized by government? BW and Jack,

Please clarify. Do you think the government should stay out of marriage because it is a religious institution only recognized by government?

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