Keeping prostitution illegal

In Reason Magazine, Cathy Young wrote a very good post, libertarian in tone, challenging the US’s continued commitment to keeping prostitution illegal. She points out that the US is one of the last Western nations to keep prostitution completely illegal (ignoring Nevada and Rhode Island), and that there are a lot of good reasons to legalize it. First, it is (or, at least, it can be) a marketplace transaction like any other, with a willing buyer and a willing seller. The only difference is that the service sold is sex, as opposed to, say, legal services or plumbing:

Yet prostitution is perhaps the ultimate victimless crime: a consensual transaction in which both parties are supposedly committing a crime, and the person most likely to be charged—the one selling sex—is also the one most likely to be viewed as the victim. (A bizarre inversion of this situation occurs in Sweden, where, as a result of feminist pressure to treat prostitutes as victims, it is now a crime to pay for sex but not to offer it for sale.) It is sometimes claimed that the true victims of prostitution are the johns’ wives. But surely women whose husbands are involved in noncommercial—and sometimes quite expensive—extramarital affairs are no less victimized.

Also, if you’re looking at downsides to keeping commercial sex illegal, there’s no doubt but that legalized prostitution results in a vastly lower rate of sexually transmitted diseases, as well as the potential for less corrupt law enforcement:

As with other victimless crimes, the criminalization of prostitution creates a vast breeding ground for corruption, hypocrisy, and morally dubious law enforcement tactics. Thus, open advertisement of escort services is widely tolerated under the flimsy pretext that clients are paying for companionship, “modeling,” “role play” and other non-sexual activities, and that when sex occurs it’s by mutual choice unrelated to any fees. Selective enforcement is the norm, as is entrapment. Anti-prostitution campaigns are also frequently accompanied by the Big Brother-ish practice of state-sponsored public shaming. Not to mention how black market constitution makes it more difficult to police the sex slave trade, where the prostitutes really are victims.

Good points all, and an honorable libertarian such as the Captain (whose post made me aware of Young’s article), doesn’t disagree with them on libertarian terms. However, as he explains in a post addressing Young’s argument, he is bothered by the notion of legalizing prostitution based on the notion the commercializing sex trivializes the sacred character of the human body:

If we don’t structure our society to protect the essential value of human beings, then what do we value? Everyone becomes a commodity in some form or another, if we participate in the selling of women for prostitution, even if the women themselves do the selling. If we accept that, then we accept the idea that humans have no more value than cattle and pork bellies. Perhaps even worse, we construct classes of people whose value comes from selling their bodies for the gratification of others, while other classes of people are so valuable on the basis of their lineage that we wouldn’t dare think of them in that manner. That eventually takes us back to the feudal system, where the serfs and the slaves got bought and sold for the pleasure and profit of their masters.

I admire the Captain’s spirit, but I think there’s another argument, less fragile and spiritual than one pinned to the human spirit, that justifies keeping prostitution illegal. Both Young and the Captain are doing little checks and balances: market versus individuality; disease versus exploitation, etc. I would propose a larger societal concern that outweighs all of these: America is a country that is still committed to the notion of marriage as an essential societal good. Legalizing prostitution devalues and, potentially, destroys that institution.

In many ways, the arch feminists have been right all along when they complain that marriage is merely legalized prostitution. Certainly, as marriage developed in times when women had limited earning power, one of the main things they brought to the wedding was the man’s right to unlimited sexual access to their bodies. In exchange, the man promised to provide these women with economic support and to acknowledge as his (with the hope that he did so truthfully) any children born from the woman’s body.

In other words, if one looks at it from the man’s point of view, marriage has long been a contract, similar to that with a prostitute, where she promises sex and he promises money. The difference is that, in marriage, it’s a lifetime commitment, not one for hours or minutes. That sounds pretty crude, and it is. In America, we’re blessed by the fact that we grace marriage with the invaluable intangibles of love, affection and loyalty. However, strip away these often Victorian constructs and you see that marriage developed as a commercial transaction, with the lucky woman bringing to the marriage marketplace parental funds, thereby sometimes enhancing her marital choices, and the unlucky woman bringing no more than her body.

In places that legalize prostitution, the market savvy man has infinitely less interest in the long-term contract that underlies every marriage. Thing of it from his point of view: In marriage, ongoing access to sex theoretically requires lifelong monogamy and monetary commitments; and in dating, ongoing access to sex requires, at minimum, a short term commitment to monogamy, as well as expenditures ranging from food and entertainment to housing. Purchased sex, however, is a remarkably simple transaction: give money, get sex.

And think how much better this whole short term commercialized transaction is if it takes place in an environment where you don’t have to worry about disease, arrests or social stigma. For many men, and I say this with no disrespect, it’s an ideal situation where they can have sex with a minimal economic outlay, and no long term commitments. If these same men eventually meet a woman with whom they wish to be monogamous for life, they still can, but marriage is no longer the only ticket to disease-free, stigma-free, guilt-free sex.

Ultimately, then, legalized prostitution discourages marriage. The US, though, still thinks marriage is a good thing and by keeping prostitution illegal makes sex within marriage, despite all the demands on him, a desirable commodity for the average man. This may be naive and Pollyanna-ish (I’m sure the Europeans think it is), but despite the upheavals of the past forty years, we still enshrine marriage as an important societal principle.

There’s no doubt, of course, that there are downsides to giving primacy to a principle. When the principle is marriage, elevating it by making prostitution illegal instantly creates all the problems that come when anything is illegal: people break laws, governments and police become corrupt as people try to circumvent the consequences of breaking these laws and, in the case of illegal sex, disease can be a problem.

The fact is, though, that all principles, once put into effect, carry downsides with them. There is no societal initiative that I can think of that doesn’t leave victims in its wake. In this regard, remember that in Germany, which has legalized prostitution, the down side to the legalizing principle is that the government can force women into the sex trade, something Germans last did during World War II.

At the end of the day, I don’t think I’m going too far afield in drawing a connection between legalized prostitution and a society’s diminished capacity for traditional marriage. Those same countries that have legalized prostitution have also seen significantly lowered marriage rates. It’s no secret that, in Europe, people are getting married with less and less frequency. Australia, which has legalized prostitution, has also seen significantly lower marriage rates.

I understand, of course, that it’s not just legalized prostitution alone that has chipped away at marriage. These same countries have packages of initiatives that seek to destroy the family as the primary unit and to replace it with the government. Just as men no longer need wives for sex, women no longer need men to help them shoulder the burden of parenting. The social welfare system in these states has ensured that men are redundant. The gay marriage kerfuffle (should they or shouldn’t they?) is only the most visible attack on traditional marriage. The real challenges occur when governments act so that no benefit accrues to people who are thinking about committing to marriage.

And so I would say the prostitution argument can be lifted up from minutiae about disease and crime and the human spirit and can be phrased thusly: If, as a society, we believe marriage is a paramount good that creates strong family units and prevents total dependence on government, prostitution should be illegal, despite the ills that flow from it. Alternatively, if we believe that marriage is an antiquated construct and that it is good and reasonable for the state to provide those benefits, both physical and economic, that once flowed from marriage and tight family units then, by all means, let’s make prostitution legal.

UPDATE: Over at CDR Salamander, Phibian notes another subtle weapon that’s being used in the war against traditional marriage. I’ll repeat here what I said in a comment to his post: “As it is, I believe marriage is a good thing for a healthy society and a good thing for individuals. Otherwise, there’s nothing but the State, and I think statism is a bad thing. All things that prevent the development of the nuclear family, whether giving men an incentive to avoid marriage, or giving women a reason either to avoid having children or avoid having a man attached to those children, are therefore, in my mind, bad things. ” In case you missed it, here’s the reason I fear statism.

UPDATE II:  A reader was kind enough to bring to my attention the fact that the German report story about the woman given the choice of prostitution or giving up unemployment benefits probably isn’t a story at all.  Instead, it’s a hypothetical.  That is, a couple of years ago, a German publication hypothesized that current laws could lead to such a result.  The fact that they could is significant, but so is the fact that, so far, they haven’t.

17 Responses

  1. Bravo! (and not just for linking to me)

    You also have the true face of legal prostitution. Having spent a fair amount of time in The Netherlands and Germany, you can see it with your own eyes. Few things degrade the soul. Walk by the Oude Kerk in Amsterdam in the afternoon and see the poor “low-rent hours” souls in the windows and then talk to me about the freedom and liberation of prostitution. Talk to me about what having a boss care if you spend all your money on meth as long as you bring him your cut. Is that liberty? Talk to the young women from Moldovia sold to brothel owners by the Albanian mafia.

    Talk to wife who never sees her husband on those few nights he does not work late – or is expected to do things that are well beyond what most any free person, or at least that person, would want done to them. “You couldn’t pay me to do that…” Well, a drive down the street, and some of the family’s disposable income can.

    Nice, direct post Bookie. Some don’t like to talk about the uncomfortable truths that are out there.

  2. Prostitution is a form of animal husbandry with the swineherder er I mean pimp demanding payment pound of flesh in more ways than one.
    Keep it illegal.

  3. A slight detour: In addition to prostitution, civil unions will also negatively affect marriage. Even if you are hetero, why go to the trouble of marriage (and possibly untidy divorce) when you can just join civilly and I would suppose, split civilly, especially if there is no religious imperative. If there are dependent children involved, it really doesn’t matter because what is REALLY important today are the rights of selfish adults who demand their rights to do as they please because, after all, it’s all about me.

  4. Sadly, marriage is being devalued and undermined without either legal prostitution or gay marriage. The “hookup” culture is taking care of it among the younger generation. Check out the marriage rates…..and the level of illegitimacy in our society. It’s enough to make one weep.

  5. I can understand why women hate prostitution. It is competition. Bookworm, as a man who chose to go to Russia because he could not find a decent woman in America I am very sick of the feminist drivel that has seeped into the minds of even the most conservative women. Take an honest look at what getting married gets a man in America, today. What are his rights, responsibilities. What value is in the marriage contract.

    If you are truly honest you must wonder why would an American man would ever get married. For the same reason that women get married, to have children. Men love their children every bit as much as women. We want to be fathers. Sex is a factor but it isn’t the driving factor. I would also guess that the decline in marriage in countries in which prostitution was legal has a lot less to do with prostitution that it does with the ease in which women divorce their husbands.

    All you traditional warriors who want to save marriage please remember it is women who are far more likely to end a marriage. It isn’t hard to figure out why. Women get custody. If you want to save marriage we have to disincentivize women to divorce and the only solution I can see is shared parenting. 50/50. Men like sex but we love our children.

  6. BTW, we are having a baby tomorrow.

    :-)

  7. In the end it has to do with strength and the eventual state of your abilities in this destiny of the human race. Where are we going? Why are we going there? What can we expect when we get there?

    People seem to be delaying marriage, sort of like the betrothal process back in the day. Where folks are waiting for economic development, but now a days we are looking for personal compatibility and avoiding the economic downfall of a wrecked marriage. So in a sense it is similar.

    Lowering the rate of marriage wouldn’t be so bad if there was something better to replace it with, but statistically, that tends to just depress the child rate.

    Eventually people will have to figure out what they want society to do and how that compares to what society should do. Because in the end, it is about making laws that make society better, but better is a concept that now a days seem to be mired in the rhetoric of opinion, not objective standards of reality.

    They say legalized prostitution is better, but why is it better? Eventually it hits the core concept that a person has of what makes “society better”.

  8. Bill, I am happy for you and your wife, but I question the statement that you are a “man who chose to go to Russia because he could not find a decent woman in America”. Really? In all of America no decent women at all? Come on, as one happily married, decent American woman I think that that is a pretty dumb statement and more reflective of you than on the millions and millions of indecent (apparently) American women over here. Guess they make American men all right, but the women… gotta go overseas for them. Sheesh.

  9. It is not the women. It is the laws and the culture and the … economy really.

    If you really understand the problems with American women, or the ones you don’t like at least, you can avoid them so you don’t waste time in relationships with them. It is debatable whether you have a higher chance of finding a woman that wants what you can provide, in Russia than the US.

    Compatibility is never all that static.

  10. Bookworm, so according to you the fact that you hold marriage dear means I don’t have the right to engage in consensual activity with another free adult that doesn’t hurt anybody. Bravo. Remember this when you moan about some people forcing hijabs on women. According to them this is also done for very good principles including preserving marriage and families.
    Then after spending so much time criticizing the left for simplistic ideas about how society works you end up postulating the theory that access to prostitution somehow affects marriage rates. As far as simplistic theories go this should rank near the top. Not to mention that it is very likely incorrect. As far as I know in Europe in your glorious old days when everybody was married and had lots of children it was easier to get access to a prostitute than it is now. What really affects marriage rates is a) the pill b) economic incentives c) many other interrelated factors but I am sure access to prostitutes is not one of them. But of course you have an unbeatable proof of your “theory” – coincidence of lower marriage rates and legalized prostitution in some countries. Remember this when you criticize human-made-global-warming-ists.
    Lastly your ideas about how marriage “developed” are ridiculous at best. We got marriage, infidelity, prostitution and rape from our ape-like ancestors. They evolved because of biological reality of our reproductive cycle, very long childhood that required investment by both parents and other factors. All the biological evidence (my favorite being testicle size compared to other primates) points out that we were “mildly polygamous” before we were human. Nothing you can legislate will change human behavior in this respect.

  11. There are a lot of factors that inhibit or devalue marriage, and prostitution isn’t the one singular factor. Increased work hours, high bank interest rates (that can affect a person’s ability to pay a mortgage), work reforms (depending on country), and population can all minimize marriage potential. Sex is just sex, at the end of the day, and it’s not so much about a hook up culture, but the rise of the information age has also seen a decline in sociability, where people rely on the internet for all their social interactions; the two dimensional communiqué, and in the real world socialization can be impacted, people have little idea how to communicate, let alone follow physical cues.

    The ugliness surrounding prostitution has more to do with the industries that feed into it: organized crime, illegal drug trades, human trafficking. As the popular saying goes, prostitution is the oldest profession in the world, and marriage has still survived alongside this profession (for want of a better word).

    The terrible thing about criminalizing prostitution is that the big fish behind the profession are seldom prosecuted. Police always arrest the working girl, not the pimp or flesh trader.

  12. BLUF- Prostitution should be legal. Or at the least decriminalized. I would submit that prostitution saves as many marriages as it destroys-particulalry were the wife does not seem inclined to provide what she should-but other wise the couple gets along fine.

    Bill C’s comments are quite understandable Why should a man have to have his chops smacked at every opportunity? When there are other alternatives available. There is market created for the services that prostitution provides-ask yourself why is that?

    Asia coexists fine with prostitution in its very midst. Families still grow and husbands still pay bills. However I would submit that Asia has a better attitude towards sex. America’s is incredibly backwards and that is why some of the problems exist that do.

  13. Book, you state:
    “…there’s nothing but the State, and I think statism is a bad thing. All things that prevent the development of the nuclear family, whether giving men an incentive to avoid marriage…”

    I know where you’re headed: that when there is only The State, and when marriage is completely devalued, a very grim society is the result. But I think the downside of this argument is that we are increasing the power of the state whenever we allow it to control ANY consensual behavior between adults. That’s the tradeoff.

    I agree most with ‘CDR Salamander’ in post #1, that prostitution is simply venal and self-destructive, and is most often a desperate act of a desperate woman. Either you are down to the last thing you can barter – your body – or if you haven’t descended to that point, you’ve got very little self-esteem remaining to offer your body for sale first.

    Traditional values, in America, means legislating against what is harmful to the spiritual well-being of the individual. And thus in protecting individuals from spiritual corruption, society is strengthened. I believe that is the traditional argument.

    Being a strong libertarian, I’m ambivalent – I see the good and the bad in this. As another poster commented, that is precisely the Islamic impulse towards forcing all women to wear the burka.

    However, being a believer that civilization is more than just the trappings of modernity, that civilization is apparent in the healthy mind and spirit of the people who form that “civilized culture”, I DEFINITELY understand the traditional argument that we must place legal chains upon the worse demons of our nature.

    One of the reasons Capra’s “It’s A Wonderful Life” remains so popular is, I believe, its depiction of Pottersville (?). The lives of all the people there are clearly nasty, brutish and short. They have the trappings of civilization but no soul, no spirit, no hope. Legalized prostitution, it seems to me, would be most welcome there. It’s a powerful depiction of a society, civilization, and culture on the path of descent to depravity.

    Being a gay man who spent a few years exploring what was out there to be offered, I certainly saw my own version of Pottersville in the ghettoes of that cultural sinkhole that centered around the gay bars. The unrestrained hedonism and the complete superficiality of so many lives centered around it, the soullessness and banality of it all; the endless pursuit of a happiness never found because their manner of pursuit is so shallow and lacking in any worth of soul or spirit. (Many of the same people in that crowd end up in a church on Sunday, but they spend well more than half the time in snide asides about various other members of the congregation, or commenting on, er, various sexual aspects of the male anatomy around them… and nearly no time at all in devotion or contemplation of the spiritual.)

    In summary, any culture is an expression of the values of its people. A Pottersville is a reflection of its people’s souls. They can sometimes be redeemed (and become civilized), but how? The alternative to that redemption is the long steady decline into complete nihilism and barbarism. It seems to me that traditional values have WORKED all along, and we have to accept some limited measure of statist intrusion into our lives; because the alternative is some new, nontraditional approach that so far has continually shown that it does not work, and that its end result is the descent into nihilism and barbarism of its own people, which any civilization should attempt to avoid.

  14. It’s time to get over it, and legalize prostitution. Those who are so inclined will locate it anyway. As it is, they’re compelled to run the risk of running afoul of the law when they do so, and their lives shouldn’t be screwed forever on that basis. Dictating with whom and how people who have attained their majority use their bodies is just not the job of the state.

    What I find really tiresome in this enlightened republic is the fact that about 75% of police work here has to do with the regulation of our private morals. By which I mean, controlling what we drink, eat, smoke, put into our veins; and regulating with whom and how we gamble, and with whom and how we indulge in sex.

    It isn’t merely brainless, either: The inevitable result of this is, as pointed out above, that our cops are among the most corrupt in the western world. They are on the take from gamblers, drug pushers, pimps, the Mafia, the Russian Mafia, the Chinese Mafia, me when I’m speeding, etc. – and a fair amount of it comes from those whose sexual proclivities have been proscribed by the state.

    (Just as a highly cynical side note: I own a very fast car and as an ex-racer I tend to, when on the open road, drive it very fast. [There is no reason not to cruise US 80 through Nevada at 140. That's what road was made for.] When I’m off to travel interstate, I’m always sure to carry some fifties and a couple of hundreds in my wallet. I’ve been pulled over a few times – I’ve yet to get the ticket. A fifty will do it for most cops; a couple here and there have held out for a hundred.)

    This matter of sexual proclivities used to include the homosexual market, too, don’t forget. It’s only recently – and not yet everywhere, I believe – that laws against sodomy were repealed. The proscription against it was long-established and firmly based, going back, as it did, to the Roman Emperor Justinian. He made it illegal because, as everyone knows, sodomy causes earthquakes. It stayed illegal for nearly 1,500 years. (We as a society are clearly offended by earthquakes.)

    I am neither gay, nor have I ever patronized a prostitute, but it’s time for the vice squad to go. It’s vice to go to bed with someone who does not appeal to you simply for money? (I presume most of them do it for free with those who do appeal to them.) That standard, it should be noted, would invalidate most of the upper-class marriages of our parent’s generation, (certainly including Franklin and Eleanor) which were for the most part (whether openly admitted outside the families or not) not all that far removed from the concept of arranged marriages.

    The police don’t belong poking around under the covers of those of legal age. Anyone’s covers. It’s an asinine waste of public resources, and if prostitution were recognized and legalized most of the attached criminality would dry up. If the girls didn’t need protection – primarily from the cops – they wouldn’t have to hire protectors, and the pimps and their attendant problems would go away.

    And the cops could go after actual criminals, and stop worrying about who you’re bopping.

  15. JJ’s argument hindges upon the fact that the government is worse in control. Yet somehow we are to believe that once prostitution goes from cops, enforcers of the law, to the IRS and Congressional tax income luxuries… it is somehow going to get better.

    It would probably be taken from the underground and openly dealt, but nothing would change.

    The police don’t belong poking around under the covers of those of legal age.

    That’s something you got against police powers that have little to anything to do with what society should agree or not agree to do.

    If the girls didn’t need protection – primarily from the cops – they wouldn’t have to hire protectors, and the pimps and their attendant problems would go away.

    Now that’s ridiculous. The girls don’t have pimps cause of the cops. Pimps exist because of human greed, and if you think getting rid of the cops – which is another thing having to do with what you have against cops and little to nothing to do with the subject of prostitution – is going to get rid of the pimps, then
    that is just not going to happen.

    What would probably happen is sort of akin to legalized drug smuggling. The government becomes the supplies, and instead of illegal drug cartels, the government becomes the top most drug cartel getting the take. In this case, the fees from prostitution would just go to the highest level of government. Which is not bad for them given the rate of hiring prostitutes by those in political power.

    Soon enough we’ll have a European expectation of morals, where sex scandals are simply expected. That’s fine for Europe, cause they were going decadent anyways given their lack of purpose, but it would be interesting to see what happens to the political leadership of a superpower, when they become really really decadent. Something tells me it becomes an accelerated slide sooner or later.

    By which I mean, controlling what we drink, eat, smoke, put into our veins; and regulating with whom and how we gamble, and with whom and how we indulge in sex.

    And has legalized gambling made the police in Nevada suddenly less corrupt? Not by your claims and anecdotes.

  16. Point 1 – if the police are deriving their powers from somewhere other than society, I’d be damned interested to know from whence said powers come.

    Point 2 – the number one job of any pimp anywhere is to provide protection – which consists mostly of being there to bail them out when they get arrested. Protection from law enforcement is indeed precisely why the profession of pimp came into being. (Since prostitution continues to be illegal, pimps have branched out into other lucrative areas, but they all are founded in the illegality of prostitution. If the criminal element were taken out of the oldest profession, the pimps would tend to dry up – as pimps. They might still be crooks, but they’d be crooks doing something else.)

    Point 3 – of course not, they’ve spent decades in a culture of corruption. The New Jersey cops lead the known universe in corruption, and ganbling is perfectly legal there too. The fact remains that Las Vegas makes several hundred arrests a night for something perfectly legal a few miles outside the city. That’s stupid. Good for the city coffers (which is the real point, of course) but stupid.(Nevada has not legalized prostitution. Two counties in the state have done so, and neither of them includes the population and resort centers of Las Vegas or Reno.)

    It is manifestly brainless that society has no interest in who goes to bed with whom, or how often, for fun; but the minute somebody exchanges a few bucks for it, off you go to chokey. That is dumb, and a waste of police time and energy that could be better spent in engaging genuine criminals.

    And, just speaking philosophically, what really is the difference between taking her to the theatre and dinner, or just directly paying her? As Julia Roberts pointed out to Richard Gere, it was a great little seduction scene he had going there – but all unnecessary: she was a sure thing. A ridiculous movie – absolutely. But the philosophy behind the remark was sound. How many of you guys, when you were younger, figured maybe a really nice, expensive evening would get the job done? (Everybody who was ever a teenage, dating male, if you’re honest! “Trying to impress her” is code, and we all know it.)

  17. « Ultimately, then, legalized prostitution discourages marriage »… hmmm, then we may infer that « illegal prostitution encourages marriage ». What does this say about marriage ? Indeed, a broad range of studies support such an idea. Your arguments suggest that prostitution and marriage are commensurate, that they co-exist within the same dynamics and value set, albeit at different locations.

    Your ideas also situate « love, affection and loyalty » as if they were « pure » values to be maintained. However, in the human psyche there is no sharp boundary between these emotions and a whole host of other needs. The idea of « true love » is just that, an idea, a projection, and not the way we actually experience love. The social commitment to preserving marriage and keeping prostitution illegal is related to the social commitment to deny that human beings incorporate parts of being that do not fit within such well defined categories. It is time we recognized and accepted our disparate selves and it is time to dismantle or transform institutions that deny our own contradictions, including marriage. It is time to legalize prostitution, and explore different ways of being human.

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