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		<title>By: Huh?</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/black-is-not-white/#comment-39946</link>
		<dc:creator>Huh?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No blood on Jumblatt&#039;s hands? No weapons in his back pocket? Do you even know who this guy is? Get your facts straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No blood on Jumblatt&#8217;s hands? No weapons in his back pocket? Do you even know who this guy is? Get your facts straight.</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/black-is-not-white/#comment-39653</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 03:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;The realists have it all wrong. This policy was tried for decades on end and it resulted in scenarios where the only prominent opposition to a secular dictator came in the form of even worse religiously fanatical masses. Look for a moment at Egypt, where the Muslim Brotherhood and likeminded Salafists are the main resistance to Mubarak&#039;s rule. Look at the Jordanian kingship, where its people tended to sympathize with Abu al Zarqawi before he started blowing them up. Look at Kuwait - a nation that was liberated by the United States and subsequently ethnically cleansed all Palestinian nomads - where its people polled the highest anti-American sentiment in the region. Look at the Saudi royal family, which brainwash and indoctrinate their youth in systematic fashion in order to get them hating our liberalism just a little bit more than they hate their lack of significance.

Not only must we not talk to our enemies - just ask Sharansky how much he and his fellow dungeon dissidents preferred Reagan&#039;s unapologetic and open moralism to Nixon&#039;s detente - but we must become increasingly suspicious of our once-cherished Arab allies. Dwight Eisenhower once remarked that if one could not solve a problem, he would be wise to enlarge it. The solution to our current quandary in the Mideast is not a reversal and return to the old order, but to rile up a few more hornet nests. We are engaged in an audacious counterinsurgency across hostile Sunni municipalities with hundreds of thousands of indigenous Iraqi allies at our side. If we were to accept any of the ridiculous Vietnam comparisons, at least let us acknowledge that we have not only toppled the adversarial government (which was not done then), but we have also, wisely, skipped the half-decade as loner and have moved on to contemporary Vietnamization.

Keeping the historical analogies alive, if this is in fact the decades-long struggle we are told it is, and victory, as only a determined few define it, rests not only with the capture of specific terrorists or with the continued prevention of domestic attack, but with the transformation of an undemocratic, self-righteously puritanical, and intolerantly hierarchical part of the planet, then let us not embrace a new detente. George Bush Sr., the stone-cold pragmatist, should creep out anyone who champions the promotion of human freedom. Like his associates, the so-called &quot;wise men&quot; from Powell to Baker, Bush the elder served the United States with credit and as he saw fit, in service and in government. But as he saw fit - as Baker, Gates, and that gang see fit - is wrong.

We must never forget their keeping Hussein in power, or their reinstalling of the Kuwaiti thugocracy, or their assurances to the Iraqi people they would receive American assistance in the event of an uprising - and then their ensuing butchery when the aid they believed we would provide never showed up. We must never forget their golfing with loon tyrants and crass despots for the sake of dictatorial constancy. We should not forget Scowcroft apologizing for Wahhabism, or his lunching with the slaughterers of Tiananmen to &quot;avoid isolating China.&quot; We must never forget their nonchalance as the Berlin Wall fell, or their attempts to preserve the sovereignty, territorial integrity, and continued existence of the Soviet Union. We should not overlook their aversion to change - democratic change, above all.&lt;/b&gt;

A commenter reminded me of this post, curiously enough unconnected with here, presumably.

http://ymarsakar.blogspot.com/2006/11/realpolitek-from-bush-senior_24.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The realists have it all wrong. This policy was tried for decades on end and it resulted in scenarios where the only prominent opposition to a secular dictator came in the form of even worse religiously fanatical masses. Look for a moment at Egypt, where the Muslim Brotherhood and likeminded Salafists are the main resistance to Mubarak&#8217;s rule. Look at the Jordanian kingship, where its people tended to sympathize with Abu al Zarqawi before he started blowing them up. Look at Kuwait &#8211; a nation that was liberated by the United States and subsequently ethnically cleansed all Palestinian nomads &#8211; where its people polled the highest anti-American sentiment in the region. Look at the Saudi royal family, which brainwash and indoctrinate their youth in systematic fashion in order to get them hating our liberalism just a little bit more than they hate their lack of significance.</p>
<p>Not only must we not talk to our enemies &#8211; just ask Sharansky how much he and his fellow dungeon dissidents preferred Reagan&#8217;s unapologetic and open moralism to Nixon&#8217;s detente &#8211; but we must become increasingly suspicious of our once-cherished Arab allies. Dwight Eisenhower once remarked that if one could not solve a problem, he would be wise to enlarge it. The solution to our current quandary in the Mideast is not a reversal and return to the old order, but to rile up a few more hornet nests. We are engaged in an audacious counterinsurgency across hostile Sunni municipalities with hundreds of thousands of indigenous Iraqi allies at our side. If we were to accept any of the ridiculous Vietnam comparisons, at least let us acknowledge that we have not only toppled the adversarial government (which was not done then), but we have also, wisely, skipped the half-decade as loner and have moved on to contemporary Vietnamization.</p>
<p>Keeping the historical analogies alive, if this is in fact the decades-long struggle we are told it is, and victory, as only a determined few define it, rests not only with the capture of specific terrorists or with the continued prevention of domestic attack, but with the transformation of an undemocratic, self-righteously puritanical, and intolerantly hierarchical part of the planet, then let us not embrace a new detente. George Bush Sr., the stone-cold pragmatist, should creep out anyone who champions the promotion of human freedom. Like his associates, the so-called &#8220;wise men&#8221; from Powell to Baker, Bush the elder served the United States with credit and as he saw fit, in service and in government. But as he saw fit &#8211; as Baker, Gates, and that gang see fit &#8211; is wrong.</p>
<p>We must never forget their keeping Hussein in power, or their reinstalling of the Kuwaiti thugocracy, or their assurances to the Iraqi people they would receive American assistance in the event of an uprising &#8211; and then their ensuing butchery when the aid they believed we would provide never showed up. We must never forget their golfing with loon tyrants and crass despots for the sake of dictatorial constancy. We should not forget Scowcroft apologizing for Wahhabism, or his lunching with the slaughterers of Tiananmen to &#8220;avoid isolating China.&#8221; We must never forget their nonchalance as the Berlin Wall fell, or their attempts to preserve the sovereignty, territorial integrity, and continued existence of the Soviet Union. We should not overlook their aversion to change &#8211; democratic change, above all.</b></p>
<p>A commenter reminded me of this post, curiously enough unconnected with here, presumably.</p>
<p><a href="http://ymarsakar.blogspot.com/2006/11/realpolitek-from-bush-senior_24.html" rel="nofollow">http://ymarsakar.blogspot.com/2006/11/realpolitek-from-bush-senior_24.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/black-is-not-white/#comment-39648</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ability to doublethink really is amazing. For example, Bush is supposed to be one of those undiplomatic monkeys that make a bumbling sort of diplomacy. If only we could talk to Iran face to face... let them know.

It is fine for people on the Left to talk about diplomacy, in their world view America has no enemies. Or rather, everyone is an enemy of America. Sunni, Shia, Druze, Syrian, Iranian, etc.

I mean, it is very hard to figure out global political alliances if people are still arguing about &quot;should America be fighting for....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ability to doublethink really is amazing. For example, Bush is supposed to be one of those undiplomatic monkeys that make a bumbling sort of diplomacy. If only we could talk to Iran face to face&#8230; let them know.</p>
<p>It is fine for people on the Left to talk about diplomacy, in their world view America has no enemies. Or rather, everyone is an enemy of America. Sunni, Shia, Druze, Syrian, Iranian, etc.</p>
<p>I mean, it is very hard to figure out global political alliances if people are still arguing about &#8220;should America be fighting for&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/black-is-not-white/#comment-39645</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walid_Jumblatt

You know it is just talk, people. They want to talk about the anti-Americans=bad, but they won&#039;t do anything with them, either way.</description>
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<p>You know it is just talk, people. They want to talk about the anti-Americans=bad, but they won&#8217;t do anything with them, either way.</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/black-is-not-white/#comment-39644</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Left likes to moralize and lecture, but they don&#039;t walk the walk. As Iraq clearly demonstrated. Saddam was bad, but... you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Left likes to moralize and lecture, but they don&#8217;t walk the walk. As Iraq clearly demonstrated. Saddam was bad, but&#8230; you know.</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/black-is-not-white/#comment-39643</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Stalin, yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Stalin, yes.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/black-is-not-white/#comment-39642</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Black is white, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black is white, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/black-is-not-white/#comment-39641</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing illogical about it.  It&#039;s a sad commentary on the Middle East when we realize that Jumblatt represents the lesser -- and, in that insane environment, the more rational -- of the evils confronting the world.  In the hierarchy of evil, Syria is indeed worse, since it&#039;s been active against America while Jumblatt, so far, is just talk.  Politics has always made strange bedfellows and Jumblatt has a big mouth, but no blood on his hands and no weapons in his back pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing illogical about it.  It&#8217;s a sad commentary on the Middle East when we realize that Jumblatt represents the lesser &#8212; and, in that insane environment, the more rational &#8212; of the evils confronting the world.  In the hierarchy of evil, Syria is indeed worse, since it&#8217;s been active against America while Jumblatt, so far, is just talk.  Politics has always made strange bedfellows and Jumblatt has a big mouth, but no blood on his hands and no weapons in his back pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/black-is-not-white/#comment-39639</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say, Book, speaking of things that appear to be anti-Semitic but are understood by the Right as being deeply rational, I wonder if you could parse yesterday&#039;s meeting between our President and Walid Jumblatt. Jumblatt is that member of the Lebanese Parliament who claims the real axis of evil is &quot;oil and Jews.&quot; And of course, he&#039;s a full-throated cheerleader for more American deaths in Iraq (which does cause pause to some, but I guess not the President). Jumblatt&#039;s trump card is his advocacy for an American-led regime change in Syria. It got him in to meet Bush. 

Anyway, any ideas on how I should comprehend this meeting between our President and a virulent anti-Semite? who thinks it&#039;s a good thing when American troops die? who, following his meeting with Bush, was feted and applauded at the American Enterprise Institute?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say, Book, speaking of things that appear to be anti-Semitic but are understood by the Right as being deeply rational, I wonder if you could parse yesterday&#8217;s meeting between our President and Walid Jumblatt. Jumblatt is that member of the Lebanese Parliament who claims the real axis of evil is &#8220;oil and Jews.&#8221; And of course, he&#8217;s a full-throated cheerleader for more American deaths in Iraq (which does cause pause to some, but I guess not the President). Jumblatt&#8217;s trump card is his advocacy for an American-led regime change in Syria. It got him in to meet Bush. </p>
<p>Anyway, any ideas on how I should comprehend this meeting between our President and a virulent anti-Semite? who thinks it&#8217;s a good thing when American troops die? who, following his meeting with Bush, was feted and applauded at the American Enterprise Institute?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schau</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/black-is-not-white/#comment-39618</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Schau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I am a LGF reader and proud ex-Catholic, non-religous member of the International Jewsih Conspiracy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I am a LGF reader and proud ex-Catholic, non-religous member of the International Jewsih Conspiracy!</p>
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