Is that the reason he did it?

Because Holocaust denial is so much in the press today, we’re hearing a lot about the 6 million Jews who perished during the Holocaust. We hear less about the 250,000 (more or less) who managed to survive. (If my math is correct, that tells me that only 4% of the Jews who entered the camps survived the war, a nauseatingly low survival rate.) These survivors went to Israel, came to America or tried to rebuild their lives in their former communities (a situation that could be as bad as Nazi rule).

Interestingly, reports about these survivors never seem to include horrifying stories about post-war violence that they committed. That is, I’ve never heard of a concentration camp survivor going on a killing rampage. Somehow these people, having been to Hell and back, embraced normalcy. Indeed, many of the survivors I knew as I was growing up said that their ultimate victory over the Nazi death machine was that they did live normal lives.

I’m ruminating on this point because the media is busy creating the new conventional wisdom regarding Sulejman Talovic, the Bosnian Muslim man who massacred four and wounded five in Salt Lake City, which is that he was scarred by his experiences in Bosnian during the 1990s:

The 18-year-old gunman who shot dead five people in a Salt Lake City shopping mall was a survivor of the siege that ended in the Srebrenica massacre of 8,000 Muslims in Bosnia’s 1992-95 war, a cousin said on Wednesday.

Sulejman Talovic, who was killed by police after Monday’s shooting spree in which he also wounded four people, fled his village with his family during the Bosnia war to Srebrenica, a U.N.-protected enclave, Redzo Talovic said.

They spent two years in the town, during which Bosnian Serb forces besieged the enclave and Sulejman’s grandfather was killed by shellfire, Redzo said.

When the Bosnian Serbs overran the town in 1995, taking away and massacring some 8,000 Muslim men and boys, Sulejman and his mother were evacuated by the United Nations and later reunited with his father, Redzo said.

“They were a good, quiet family and I remember that he was a nice kid when he was four or five, maybe a little bit playful,” he said, standing in front of the burnt-out shell of Sulejman’s family home in the village of Talovici, eastern Bosnia.

“No one could have supposed that he was going to do such a thing,” Redzo said. “Who knows what made him do that?” He could not say what marks Sulejman’s childhood memories of wartime Bosnia had left on him.

This could, of course, be entirely true — Talovic’s youthful experiences could have been so terrible that he snapped. But then again, maybe those experiences have nothing to do with the man he became, and they’re certainly an easy way of avoiding a more vexing problem, which is the number of drive-by jihads we’re seeing lately.

This “scarred by war” meme certainly wouldn’t be the first time the media has ascribed killing tendencies to a specific group. You may recall that, for decades, we heard that Vietnam Vets were loaded guns, just waiting to go off. Since my Dad was a WWII vet who’d seen the worst kind of fighting, as had all his peers, I found this peculiar vulnerability in the Vietnam Vets hard to understand. Over and over I’d asking anyone who cared (and many who didn’t), why this group of soldiers, unlike any other group, was unable to return to normal civilian life after the war. Most guessed that it was because of drug use in Vietnam, with some adding that it was because of American hostility when the Vets returned home.

Of course, none guessed that it was because the mythology about the Vets’ violent, anti-social, self-destructive habits was untrue. Most people (myself excluded) were surprised by a significant recent study showing that the “crazy vet” myth was a vastly overblown construct, rather than a reality.

In this case, therefore, I’m taking with a large grain of salt this early attempt to portray Talovic as a kid who was a bomb waiting to go off because of what happened in Bosnia, as opposed to either a crazy psychopathy, or another drive-by jihadist. Until one explanation is proven beyond a reasonable doubt as compared to the others, I’m withholding judgment — something the press should learn to do too.

UPDATE: Robert Spencer looks at circumstantial evidence that supports Islamism as an explanation for Talovic’s acts.

UPDATE II: Welcome Little Green Football readers. It’s always a pleasure when you drop by.

UPDATE III:  Reading my post, I realize I didn’t make something clear.  As of this writing, the press is not openly advocating the “time bomb waiting to go off” theory.  However, to he extent one major news source is trying to obscure Talovic’s Muslim background, while another even more major news source is running human interest stories about his refugee background,  I see that as an effort to promote one theory about his acts that will eventually override all other theories.  And no, I don’t think there is a media conspiracy to suppress the truth.  I just think that there is a inherent bias amongst media members that makes reporters lean inexorably to one theory to the detriment of full reporting about all other theories.

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11 Responses

  1. Take it with a couple of tons of salt, and you’ll be nearer the mark.

    A big part of the “messed-up vet” issue was also the simple ubiquity of the news cycle, which was not a factor post-WWII, or post-Korea. “If it bleeds, it leads” is not a mythological statement about the news biz, it’s a simple truth.

    The story of the one vet who happened to hold up a bank last Saturday will easily drown out (to the vanishing point) the other 100,000 who noticed it was a nice day, and took advantage of it to mow the lawn and toss a ball around with their kids. Normalcy doesn’t play, or garner ratings.

  2. I don’t suppose you were surprised to see the almost immediate statement by “law enforcement officials” that there was no link to terrorism?

    It appears that unless there is an unbroken tie to Osama, officials have a near knee-jerk propensity to deny terrorist
    motives. I think this is a pretty transparent attempt to shield certain ethnic and religious segments from public resentment.

    It will be interesting whether we ever learn if this young fellow came under the influence of any radical/jihadist indoctrination. If so, I doubt the main-stream media will enlighten us; but I would expect leaks and blogs on the subject.

    On the subject of violent vets. I knew many from WW2, Korea and Viet Nam; even a few who saw ghastly service in WW1. I don’t recall any tendency whatsoever toward uncontrollable violence. I did see some tendencies toward personal destruction; especially among those who had been wounded and treated extensively with pain killing drugs. However, I saw even more of that tendency among those who did not go to Viet Nam but enjoyed the drug culture at home.

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  4. I think the kid was bat nuts crazy as a moonbat!

    His kid record for sure indicates an almost wanton desire to harm other human beings.

    I’m thinking the fact he was a member if Islam is really a total side note, if he were still in his native country he would have become a sniper a very long time ago. Just for the rush of taking another life! Sick, by our views and standards yes, but by the standards of growing up in a war where the snipers seemed to be heroes and villains?

    Who knows maybe the missionaries were after him, got him all confused and such, they like doing things like that. The local media would be pulling a covering angle so fast one can’t believe it. After all a mormon is running for POTUS! For sure one can bet then the powers that be will, without being asked or coerced, perform what may actually appear to be an exorcism to protect the church. I’m NOT stating such as a fact, theory only.

    What I do know for a fact, is that 5 innocents are dad, four more wounded, and the guy who performed this act is also dead! Just as he should be! Saves one hella lot of expense to the public. Even though we can’t stand him up and ask him WHY! Such is life. I’m glad that somebody with a gun was present to shut this punk down and very early in his escapade as well, citizen cop, happened to be the latter this time, but someone with a gun and the guts to use it STOPPED the killing! And this guy would have been able to take out another 20 or more had he not been shot and pinned down when he was.

    I know Troly Square, been there many times, it is a confusing and delightful place full of the typical mall shops and lots of places to have a nice dinner. Shops are everywhere, some of the many hallways are narrow and wind and at times you have no idea where you might be at. It is not laid out like any typical mall in the nation! Lots of wood, glass places to hide out or hold up. Sounds like he ran out of luck almost as soon as he began his shopping experience. I’m glad he did.

  5. Based on the information that’s emerged it the last day, TC, it looks as if your take is the right one.

    What was just irksome, though, was the way some information was delicately parceled out, and some shoveled out. To me, that’s agenda-driven reporting, which makes it less like news and more like advocacy.

  6. So long as the enemy is dead, I don’t really care what the news talk about. The moment they start corrupting the ability to kill bad people, then there is a problem.

  7. Why IS it that the media, and even “law enforcement authorities” are so bloody quick to come out with statements that “there is no apparent tie to terrorism”?

    When, indeed, the very ACT of walking into a mall with a weapon, and randomly SHOOTING innocent victims IS AN ACT OF TERRORISM!?

  8. I will candidly say that I have no idea whether the fact that he was a Muslim had anything to do with his murderous rampage. However, that said, I am appalled at the MSM’s knee-jerk reaction to immediately remove that fact as a causal factor in what he did.

  9. I don’t know either, and it looks in this case like he’s a simple nut. But I agree with isirota: fascinating how quick the media evidently (maybe elves told them) knew it. Way before anybody else, like the cops, had anything to say about possible motives they were announcing that his Islamic underpinnings were not relevant. If the CIA had their sources Bin Laden would have been in a cage long since.

  10. Come on guys, the MSM cannot afford to have any shred of the thought of the inkling of the impression of the back-of-the-mind feeling that an Islamophachist could terrorize the U.S. again. If it where true (horrors!) then the devil incarnate GWB would be right. And of course,he can’t be right. I mean, a whole 5% of the population is smarter than he is, and of course that means everyone in the MSM. (thanks for the quiz, BW)
    George W. Bush is Horatio at the bridge. And the way things are going, he is probably going to die defending his nation just the way Horatio died defended Rome centuries ago. I just hope, that if he does give the supreme sacrifice, that the vast majority of the nation will finally see the truth, and will honor him. And then give every one of the snivelling, whining, obfuscating, backstabing, narscistic,
    powerhungry, manipulating, decietful, dillusional, self serving, leaches both inside and outside the country just what they deserve.
    Sorry. That “non-binding” resolution slinking through Congress right now is straining my self control.
    I’m going to my woodshop for some needed therapy.
    Al

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