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		<title>By: I&#8217;m still mentally fussing about Leftist &#8220;morality&#8221; &#171; Bookworm Room</title>
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		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m still mentally fussing about Leftist &#8220;morality&#8221; &#171; Bookworm Room</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As you know, I wrote a post, that morphed into an article, both of which were about the Leftist concept of morality. I think this moral universe yields results based on analyzing (a) an actor&#8217;s personal feelings vis a vis a given situation and (b) the relative economic position of the parties to the interaction. I&#8217;m still fussing about this whole idea, because I can&#8217;t help but think that I&#8217;ve found the answer to just about everything that irritates me with political and social stands on the Lefter side of the spectrum. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As you know, I wrote a post, that morphed into an article, both of which were about the Leftist concept of morality. I think this moral universe yields results based on analyzing (a) an actor&#8217;s personal feelings vis a vis a given situation and (b) the relative economic position of the parties to the interaction. I&#8217;m still fussing about this whole idea, because I can&#8217;t help but think that I&#8217;ve found the answer to just about everything that irritates me with political and social stands on the Lefter side of the spectrum. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Morality In Hollywood</title>
		<link>http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/relative-values-or-no-values-at-all/#comment-14473</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Morality In Hollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 06:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bookworm has a post up that is a must read if your wondering where the morality in Hollywood has been hiding&#8230;..  Bookmark to:    Filed in: Culture &#124;        No Comments &#187; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bookworm has a post up that is a must read if your wondering where the morality in Hollywood has been hiding&#8230;..  Bookmark to:    Filed in: Culture |        No Comments &raquo; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt; If you’re in charge, you’re bad; if you’re struggling to overthrow those in charge, you’re good.&lt;/b&gt;

Anything that is predictable, can also be used against them.

I stopped watching Battlestar Galactica after about the first season, 12 episodes. Not because the plot wasn&#039;t good, the plot was very exciting and unpredictable, and logical. And not because the characters were unrealistic and stereotypically stupid, no, I stopped watching cause it was so realistic that it took an emotional toll on me to watch the episodes. So like all good series, I&#039;ll just wait until I can watch it all at once, that way I can skip through some stuff.

It isn&#039;t exactly fun, because I already deal with similar situations when looking at Iraq. It is a testament to the show&#039;s realism and objective criteria on humanity, that it is so close to the actual that I&#039;m affected on an emotional and psychological level. And the fact that the first season was a little too dark, not enough happy sappy endings for me. The other seasons might be better though, but that is just speculation.

&lt;B&gt;So next time you read a movie or television review praising a show for having a spunky underdog, don’t assume that you’ll agree with the production’s moral universe (as I discovered when I watched Maria Full of Grace). &lt;/b&gt;

Just imagine all the good stuff you can do in the time freed from having to watch these &lt;I&gt;movies&lt;/i&gt;, Bookworm ; )

&lt;B&gt;(because Galactica is apparently premised on small good against big evil)&lt;/b&gt;

Small good with idiots (the XO) and with some really really, unmilitary people. The discipline is military, but the people don&#039;t act military, meaning they don&#039;t act like Marines, which to me is the model for what the military should act like.

I think if we could have a bunch of US military personas in that situation, it would be a lot more fun and pleasing. Not to say, successful.

It is almost as if these characters on BG have like a really, really, low wisdom. Higher than politicians, but still lower than what you see regularly from Iraq. In Iraq, it is the soldiers with the good stuff and the leaders with the bad. In BG, it is more or less inverted. You have good leaders trying to clean up the stuff. It is understandable because it is a show, so they want to have a lot of moral dilemmas and character conflicts with the many characters. Me, I&#039;m just interested in things getting blow up and the fighters from Galactica, kicking arse. That is about it for me.

Read more books, Bookworm!! Like JJ said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> If you’re in charge, you’re bad; if you’re struggling to overthrow those in charge, you’re good.</b></p>
<p>Anything that is predictable, can also be used against them.</p>
<p>I stopped watching Battlestar Galactica after about the first season, 12 episodes. Not because the plot wasn&#8217;t good, the plot was very exciting and unpredictable, and logical. And not because the characters were unrealistic and stereotypically stupid, no, I stopped watching cause it was so realistic that it took an emotional toll on me to watch the episodes. So like all good series, I&#8217;ll just wait until I can watch it all at once, that way I can skip through some stuff.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t exactly fun, because I already deal with similar situations when looking at Iraq. It is a testament to the show&#8217;s realism and objective criteria on humanity, that it is so close to the actual that I&#8217;m affected on an emotional and psychological level. And the fact that the first season was a little too dark, not enough happy sappy endings for me. The other seasons might be better though, but that is just speculation.</p>
<p><b>So next time you read a movie or television review praising a show for having a spunky underdog, don’t assume that you’ll agree with the production’s moral universe (as I discovered when I watched Maria Full of Grace). </b></p>
<p>Just imagine all the good stuff you can do in the time freed from having to watch these <i>movies</i>, Bookworm ; )</p>
<p><b>(because Galactica is apparently premised on small good against big evil)</b></p>
<p>Small good with idiots (the XO) and with some really really, unmilitary people. The discipline is military, but the people don&#8217;t act military, meaning they don&#8217;t act like Marines, which to me is the model for what the military should act like.</p>
<p>I think if we could have a bunch of US military personas in that situation, it would be a lot more fun and pleasing. Not to say, successful.</p>
<p>It is almost as if these characters on BG have like a really, really, low wisdom. Higher than politicians, but still lower than what you see regularly from Iraq. In Iraq, it is the soldiers with the good stuff and the leaders with the bad. In BG, it is more or less inverted. You have good leaders trying to clean up the stuff. It is understandable because it is a show, so they want to have a lot of moral dilemmas and character conflicts with the many characters. Me, I&#8217;m just interested in things getting blow up and the fighters from Galactica, kicking arse. That is about it for me.</p>
<p>Read more books, Bookworm!! Like JJ said.</p>
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		<title>By: Sigmund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sigmund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of relativism goes back at least 40 years. Think about &quot;Bonnie and Clyde&quot; when the &quot;bad ole&quot; FBI &quot;massacres&quot; those &quot;paragons of virtue.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of relativism goes back at least 40 years. Think about &#8220;Bonnie and Clyde&#8221; when the &#8220;bad ole&#8221; FBI &#8220;massacres&#8221; those &#8220;paragons of virtue.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was unaware that &quot;Maria&quot; was supposed to be a big deal.  My personal experience with it was that it was such crap I couldn&#039;t sit through more than about 35 minutes of it before a book magically appeared between my eyes and the screen.  I think it took about ten minutes more when I glanced down to the end of the couch and the other half of the audience was busy with her laptop - so for us it made relatively acceptable background noise.  Certainly not compelling enough to actually command attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was unaware that &#8220;Maria&#8221; was supposed to be a big deal.  My personal experience with it was that it was such crap I couldn&#8217;t sit through more than about 35 minutes of it before a book magically appeared between my eyes and the screen.  I think it took about ten minutes more when I glanced down to the end of the couch and the other half of the audience was busy with her laptop &#8211; so for us it made relatively acceptable background noise.  Certainly not compelling enough to actually command attention.</p>
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		<title>By: erp</title>
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		<dc:creator>erp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As in all things, take it from whence it comes.  Glowing reviews by entities like those you mention are the first clue to avoid the film like the plague.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As in all things, take it from whence it comes.  Glowing reviews by entities like those you mention are the first clue to avoid the film like the plague.</p>
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